All Things Must Come to an End

Dec 2, 2012; San Diego, CA, USA; Cincinnati Bengals tight end Jermaine Gresham (84) catches a first quarter touchdown pass while defended by San Diego Chargers cornerback Quentin Jammer (23) at Qualcomm Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Jake Roth-USA TODAY Sports

When is time to let a player walk?

There is a fine line of letting a player go a little early or letting him go at the right time.

Jammer has been a member of the team for over a decade and had expressed his interest in returning to the Chargers. This is his home and this is where he wanted to end his career.

The Chargers are heading in a different direction though and Jammer was not part of the plan. Jammer could have been added depth to the secondary, but the team still was waiting things out and didn’t pursue Jammer. They likely didn’t see anything left in Jammer.

My thoughts…

Jammer’s time has past and it is time to see what the younger players on the team could do. Marcus Gilchrist has the starting safety job right now and will be looking to carry the team into the future. After Gilchrist on the depth chart is another young safety Brandon Taylor. Jammer wasn’t really going to unseat those guys at that position.

We know what he can do at corner. He lost a step and would be taking a few steps down on the depth chart. Would he want to be the 3rd or 4th cornerback off of the bench? He has been the starting Chargers corner forever, could he watch from the bench?

I like Jammer. He has been on the roster forever, he has been a great teammate and he is a great person in the community. Some things have to come to an end though. The Chargers obviously don’t think he has anything left in the tank and he didn’t want to call it quits. Another team wanted to take a chance and he jumped at the opportunity. I hate that it is the Broncos, but what can you do?

If we kept re-signing players that still felt like they had gas in the tank, then we could have him on the roster for another 8 years or so. Most athletes won’t see their talents as inferior. They have pride in their skills because that is what they do. I am still waiting for Brett Favre to make his return.

Do I hope Jammer sucks? Not really. I don’t care too much on how he plays on another roster and the most I will pay attention is when he lines up across from us.

If he does well… good for him and we made a bad evaluation. If he plays poorly, then we made the right move.

We won’t agree with every move that is made on the roster. Not every move will be a fan friendly move. In the end, we just hope it is the right move.

Topics: Quentin Jammer, San Diego Chargers

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  • PakMaN

    Shaun Phillips had another year left in the tank. Jammer should have been moved to safety on 3rd downs. Both should have been left to retire at the end of the season as chargers.

    But all things have to come to an end, so fuck them.

    • Stefanie Smith

      Why do you say that? They gave us the good years.

      • PakMaN

        Stef,

        Unfortunately, they are officially donkeys. It doesn’t matter how or why they ended up becoming a donkey, it is the simple fact they are donkeys now and for that very reason I say fuck them.

        Don’t forget I was the one asking for TT to re-sign Jammer… but all bets are off now. I hope M80 catches a game winner over him.

        • Stefanie Smith

          Oh yeah. I forgot. Thanks. lol

        • IrishCarBomb

          My sentiments exactly, you just cant wash donkey off. It was hard enough to wash the jets off of LT…….

      • Russell Grant

        I don’t hate any of the old guys but week 10 I want Fluker to steamroll both of them and Cam to beat on Vasquez like he owes him money.

  • DougM

    Agree at 95%, Ernie. Even if Jammer does well, it doesn’t necessarily mean the Chargers screwed up, though. As you said, time for the kids to develop. More importantly, Stefanie is about to go ape-s%^t on you…3, 2, 1…

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      ok… true story. and Stefanie will likely hate me for a little.. ha… she was the inspiration for the article tho

      • Stefanie Smith

        Ernie: Nobody and I do mean Nobody could hate ya. You put a lot into this thing/ I don’t agree with you. The “kids” could have still developed with Jammer around. He could have been kept on for depth. One stinking year. Now, he will likely play his final NFL game with the Broncos. IT’s just wrong.

    • Russell Grant

      Oh, she won’t be that bad.

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        Its good to have passion about your favorite players. Stef is quite the firecracker… Hahaha.

        • Stefanie Smith

          I just read that and was reminiscing over our verbal death matches. You’re too funny to fight with.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            I got everyone’s back on here… I also will go head to head. But, at the end of the day, two people can disagree… have it out… and be friends later. Happens in real life, or on the net.

    • Stefanie Smith

      The kids don’t need Jammer to be gone so they can develop. As shayaaa stated, he could have been the fifth corner on the depth chart. So… no, not buying that these guys can’t develop if Jammer was around.. Think about what you are typing. Absolutely silly.

  • MC Boltman

    I wish Jammer all the best…but man, with a salary of only $1 million, he´s allowed to screw up at times…come on, use that “joker” on week 10 and week 15 – I don´t have to beg Phillips for that, he´ll do it anyway (…”on the good side now”…jerk)

  • Russell Grant

    It’s a tough call. Keep a player who has put in the time for a decade and you might give him a way to retire gracefully in time. But you also lose the chance to develop that next guy up. You lose the year to see if the young guns can perform at this level or become that next starter. I remember when Jammer was a young corner. He wasn’t the polished defender most of us remember him becoming. He was young. He took chances and got burned. Badly. He needed that time before he was decent, then good. Keeping Jammer might have been a good last hurrah (Do you think he wouldn’t have found a way to start by the end of pre-season) but who do we not develop so he can have his farewell tour?

    No, Jammer needed to go and we need to put the young guns out there. If they get burned, then hopefully they learn in time.

    • Stefanie Smith

      Having Jammer here would not cut into the “young guys’” development. Omg, they could have put Jammer about anywhere for a year. Would having Jammer as the fifth corner on the depth chart (shayaaa’s idea) have hurt anybody on the Chargers? No.

  • tubbs45

    Jammer will be missed, time to file that jersey away. I wont miss him as a CB, but I think he could have made a run at safety for a couple more years. The Brocos are desperate for depth at Safety. I have never really been a SP fan, following him on twitter briefly made my realize that he is just not smart, but his numbers were the best OLB numbers on the team….

  • Stefanie Smith

    It’s okay. One year would not have hurt the Chargers’ Grand Plan.

    • DougM

      What if he wants to play the year after this one? How long do you drag it out so that he can retire a Charger?

      • shayaaa

        It’s hard to say without seeing an actual game but with the price they got paid, it almost seems like a no-brainer to have a team leader there just for insurance. The don’t need to cut into the “development of the young guys,” they wouldn’t have to. Jammer could have been the fifth corner on the depth chart or a backup S, Corey Lynch role – he got a paid similarly.

        • Stefanie Smith

          Thank you, shayaaa. You make a deal with him for one year. They report on the deals and everyone would know. Same for Ray Lewis. EVeryone knew this would be his last year. No surprise. It will be Jammer’s last year in 2013 and he will RETIRE AS A BRONCO. So sad.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            Disagree. He’ll retire a Charger… just like LT did.

          • IrishCarBomb

            I would not be pleased to see that at all, and I know for certain I am not the only one who feels that way. You don’t get to retire in blue and gold if you go to a rival. I am curious though, has that situation ever happened with the chargers?

          • Stefanie Smith

            I hope so, Pete. That would be a nice thing for Quentin to do. for us. Not like he owes us.

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      i think his one more year was last year… the writing had been on the wall for a while. that’s why we drafted a pair of corners a few seasons ago. time for Gilchrist and Wright to get their opportunity

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        Yes. It was last year.

  • blu3ny3llow

    on other news Dwight Freeney says the NFL owners made a pact to not spend the bank in free agency…… he also says hes going to make evryone who passed on him regret it….hope he’s right

    • Stefanie Smith

      He is accusing the Chargers’ management of the same thing. Collusion – getting together with the other NFL owners and holding down salaries of FAs.

  • Dion Chin

    Sorry Stefanie but you gotta learn to let go. Yes the Chargers of old gave us the good years but it’s time to move on. And your beloved Jammer just addressed the media saying “Denver is the best place to win Super Bowl”. I got mad love for Jammer but after the statement be can go to hell. I will forever be a San Diego Chargers fan before a fan of any individual player.

    • Stefanie Smith

      Another year would not have killed the Grand Plan.

    • Stefanie Smith

      Uhhh, Dion. Yeah, he said that.. first because Chargers’ management insulted him for months, treated him like crap–second, he begged to come back and would have taken about anything… we didn’t want to even sign him for the minimum. Lastly, yeah, as to “Denver is the best place to win a SuperBowl”–what was he supposed to say? Something ignorant or rude or be gracious to the team that is giving him a paycheck and a chance? Broncos saw some value in Jammer. We didn’t. We treated him like crap and he owes us Nothing. Denver made him feel better–Chargers kicked him around.

      • Dion Chin

        How do you know the management treated him like crap?! Just cause they didn’t sign him and didn’t consider him in the teams plans anymore doesn’t justify that.

      • taz76

        Exactly just as we have so many especially seau I love the chargers but that was wrong and he proved it in the Superbowl for new England.

  • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

    So long Jam-Man, and Phillips… For all the crap I talk, I still hate to watch a good Charger leave. We appreciate it.

    “You can spend minutes, hours, days, weeks, or even months over-analyzing a situation; trying to put the pieces together, justifying what could’ve, would’ve happened… or you can just leave the pieces on the floor and move the fuck on.” 

    • Stefanie Smith

      At least you recognize the contributions that these guys made for years. We loved these guys..

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        At least? I have lived and died on every play these guys did, or didn’t make since I was six! I have given my heart and soul to this team.. this franchise.. just like them… year in, and year out. I feel like I am as big a part of it as them.. and I pay to be a part of it. These guys are blessed, and they know it. I’ll be damned if I am gonna sit back, and be marginalized as being a “typical guy” who has no feelings about it, or be classified as being cold or callous for wanting better players. I am grateful for the energy they brought to the team, but I am not so blind that I can’t see the facts. You know I got love for you, or anyone else on this site. But, when I see you making comments like “is this a guy thing”, or you acting like people are disagreeing with you simply because you are a woman…. well, I read those comments too, and that ain’t me…. and even if some people ARE doing that (which they need to go eff themselves, if so).. you shouldn’t make general statements like that. Having said this.. you and I have come a long way recently, and I have the same respect for you, as I originally did almost a year ago. I hope that you feel the same way. We all get a little beat down.. but when you say “at least”.. you make it sound like I care the least… and that is just bullshit. Much Love <3

        • Stefanie Smith

          Something got lost in the translation here. What I meant was, you out of the other fans here–at least you recognize the contributions, because disagree or not–many don’t see that the vets made a contribution or are worth anything. I apologize for the misunderstanding.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            No worries. Maybe I read too much into “at least”. I just want to make it clear that I am not completely devoid of feeling when it comes to guys who have contributed good things to the team. These guys DO deserve respect. When I post “old fart” stuff about players, or make jokes similar to that.. it’s just poking fun.. probably to make light of the uncomfortable situation of another Charger going to the donkies. I don’t do it to minimize the player’s contributions. Sorry if I come off as harsh sometimes.

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      i won’t lie…. i love Shaun Phillips and the stupid stuff that he says. I wish he was back. not everyone agrees with that. i hate seeing him in a denver jersey too

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        It’s like when you break up with a girlfriend, because the relationship has run it’s course. You never want to see her hook up with your worst enemy… especially if they are better looking, and more successful than you are at the moment. = /

  • FitzWilly
    • Stefanie Smith

      Yep. FitzWilly. Bet TT is real happy with his FA selection.

      • FitzWilly

        Amen Sister Stefanie :)

  • Stefanie Smith

    And Ernie.: Although in times past, Pete and I would have verbal death matches, no one is gonna fight with you. You and all of the staff put up with whacky fans like myself and give us a forum to stay connected to the Chargers.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Verbal death matches… ROFL. Did we do that? Oh yeah.. we kinda did, didn’t we? yikes…. Glad that blew over quickly. I found if you aren’t getting along.. you should have it out.. stay away from each other for a while.. and then have a short memory about it. You will probably be back to normal within a month. I like that policy.

  • Stefanie Smith

    None of you say anything when this is Jammer’s last year playing and he plays his stinking last game for the Broncos. It’s wrong…so Meachem can stay a little longer? Make room for someone named Rineholt? Freeney? Cox? I mean. Who are these guys? Doesn’t even look like the Chargers anymore. Next out the door whether they like it or not—you know who… the two vets that are left… big ticket vets.

    • Dion Chin

      You’re living in the past. Meachem had to stay cause if we cut him we would of taken a cap hit. You obviously don’t understand the business in sports.

      • Stefanie Smith

        I understand the business side of football. And definitely as well as you do. If you can’t see the irony in the situation that Jammer is gone but Meachem is here then okay. Living in the past? Jammer was on the team till this upcoming season. How is that living in the past?

  • Alter Ego

    Nice job Ernie. Jammer was one of my favorite players coming out of college. Always loved his name. He was a safety converted to CB. He had a nice stretch of solid play – he earned every nickle he made. I agree that his CB days with us had run its course…I would have liked to have had him out here battling for the SS spot though. I thought that AJ and Norv should have made that move last year. His presence alone is worthy enough just in work ethic and character to have him on the roster competing. I also lean in the loyalty side that Steph talks about – as a fan I want our team to treat our veterans better than any other team. Not every player released/cut will get the same opportunities. If Jammer is Denver’s starting SS this year – he absolutely deserved at least a shot at a roster spot.

  • jamfed

    If Jammer stayed in SD, he’d expect playing time and the Chargers need to give it to Wright, Gilchrist and the new Williams. As much as I like and will miss Jammer, it was time to go… Adios mi Amigo!

    • Dion Chin

      Exactly, out with the old, on with the new!

  • jonpviv

    I don’t know, for this fan Jammer is NOT going to be missed. I don’t think he ever lived up or played to the ability of his first round pick status. It seems for every interception or decent play, there was a 45 yard interference call the next series. Since we are talking the chargers, he will probably get burned a few times to lose games for the broncos, then come here and intercept a pass with 8 seconds left in the end zone to beat the chargers……

    • Dion Chin

      Amen.

  • taz76

    We have made poor decisions more often especially the past 12years and more with norv. Seau. Butts. Mean. Turner. O’Neal Jackson all around and others benefit

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