Trades! Gotta Love Em

Apr 26, 2012; New York, NY, USA; NFL commissioner Roger Goodell speaks at the start of the 2012 NFL Draft at Radio City Music Hall. Mandatory Credit: James Lang-USA TODAY Sports

Should the Chargers trade up or down in this year’s draft? It doesn’t matter to me if the Chargers trade up or down as long as it makes our team better I’m all for it..

The worst scenario for the Chargers is if all three tackles and the two guards are gone before the 11th pick. If that happens, the Chargers could take OLB Mingo or S Vaccaro (Ernie’s man crush lol) at 11 or they could trade down. I’d rather trade down and get extra picks,(sorry Ernie) but who will want to trade up?

  • The Vikings seem like a logical choice because they have two first picks, (#23 and #25) but will they trade both. I think the Chargers can either demand the two first round picks or take one and the Vikings 2nd rounder. It all depends on how much Minnesota want’s WR Tavon Austin because the Jets at #13 and the Rams at #16 might get him. The Chargers can take an OL like Armstead to secure him or an ILB like Te’o, Ogletree, Brown, or Minter.
  •  The 49ers are another team because they have 14 picks this year and only have room on their roster for like half. Plus, they could also target WR Tavon Austin as that playmaker to finally win the Super Bowl or select S Kenny Vaccaro to replace Dashan Golston. San Fran can trade away their #31, #34, and a 3rd round pick but will trading that far back really help. The Chargers can also take an OL like Armstead or an ILB with picks #31 or #34.

Another scenario is the Chargers can trade up to the 6th pick ahead of the Cardinals at 7 and select OT Lane Johnson. If the Chargers do this then their fine with Johnnie Troutman and Chad Rinehart starting at OG and think getting a franchise LT is their missing link.  I wouldn’t mind this because I do believe Troutman should get a chance to start. Some people forget the year where Rivers was throwing to a lot of different WRs, but since he had O-line protection it didn’t matter who he was throwing to as long as he had the time to do it.

The other scenario for the Chargers is to stay at 11 and take the best player available. The BPA approach can go in a lot of directions, but as long as it makes our team better I’m all for it. If any elite OT are available, most likely Lane Johnson, then they’ll be the pick, but a guard could be the choice. If both are available, then it’s just a matter of which OG the Chargers prefer.

  • Chance Warmack played the power scheme at Alabama, but he’s versatile enough to play the zone-blocking scheme. Warmack has that nastiness that the Chargers have needed on the O-line ever since Kris Dielman retired. He’s also considered the safest pick in this draft. 
  • The other guard Jonathan Cooper is just as good, but he’s a natural fit for the zone-blocking scheme. Cooper is more versatile than Warmack because he can also play Center. Having a player that can play multiple positions is always good. Cooper is probably one of the best pulling guards and that will entice any RB.

Another BPA approach is taking an OLB like Mingo or S Vaccaro. I’ll take either one because they both will help the Chargers on defense. These two players should be our last option at staying at 11, but trading down might be a better option.

  • Barkevious Mingo played DE at LSU, but some don’t know is he was an OLB in high school. He made the switch because he can and to help the team out while he got as much playing as he could. He’s a natural pass rusher who has so much athletic ability his potential would be hard to pass on. Mingo playing OLB opposite of Melvin Ingram would get any fan excited, but Jarrett Johnson is the starter unless they move him to ILB. They can play Mingo on passing downs since Johnson is a run stuffer, but the Chargers shouldn’t spend that high of a pick on a situational player they can find one later in the draft.
  • Kenny Vaccaro out of Texas can play either safety position, but for the Chargers he’ll play SS. He’s Ernie’s favorite because of the versatility and because he can play the nickel position and cover the slot receiver or the TE. I won’t lie, I wouldn’t mind having Vaccaro play next to Weddle because the Chargers haven’t has a legit SS since Rodney Harrison. They do have Brandon Taylor and new GM Tom Telesco did say he likes Taylor, but the question is how much. I’d give taylor a chance to prove himself, but I’m only a die hard fan.

 

So Charger fans, what do you want the Chargers to do? I personally want them to trade up at #6 and select OT Lane Johnson, if he’s available, because Troutman and Taylor should get a chance to start. I’d then take RB Le’Veon Bell in the 3rd, CB Leon McFadden in the 4th, ILB Kevin Reddick in the 5th, OLB Travis Long in the 6th, and QB Sean Renfree in the 7th.

Tell me your opinion in the comment section below and get ready for the draft on Thursday. I wonder what picture Ernie will have tomorrow for the countdown til the 2013 draft.

 

-Thomas Bell

Topics: Nfl Draft 2013, San Diego Chargers

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  • Sergio Quintero

    You pretty much covered the 1st round, good article. The most probable the guard option, then followed by trade down to Vikings or Rams.

    • tbell11

      Thank you

  • http://twitter.com/FFSMeusch Sean Meusch

    If you’re going to list Mingo under the BPA approach then him being a situational player “as a rookie” (those last three words you rather conveniently left out) shouldn’t matter. Aldon Smith was a situation player as a rookie, you think the Niners regret spending a Top 15 pick on him? Jarred Johnson isn’t going to play forever and isn’t exactly on the longest of contracts either. Atlanta (another quite low in the order team) is also heavily rumored to be keen on making a move up (thought to be for Sheldon Richardson). And I wouldn’t put it past TT to fish for a future draft selection in the mix for any trade back to the high 20′s or early 30′s. He’s said he intends to refurbish this team through the draft and has more than hinted at the fact that in that regard Rome wasn’t built in a day (or a single draft).

    • Sergio Quintero

      Not huge fan of Mingo, under 240 lbs, never bench pressed in the draft process, plus 4.5 sacks in the season didn’t exactly light the world on fire.

    • tbell11

      Smith was a situation player and now he’s a beast. It could happen with mingo, but I don’t know if we could afford a pick like that.

  • kris

    Most recent mock draft on NFL.com has us trading up with Eagles and taking Eric Fisher. Not sure I like that trade. Im happier to stay put or trade back personally.

    If we stay at 11 take Vaccaro S

    2nd round take armstead T

    3rd round tyron Mathuei CB

    4rth round Reddick ILB

    5th-kenny stills WR

    6th-Baca OG

    7th- Boyd Dt

    • Sergio Quintero

      Not against Vaccaro, but I want to know what the chargers have in Brandon Taylor. They have the needs in the Oline, pass rusher, ILB where they have even worse options internally.

    • Nick in PB

      If we had a chance to get Fisher, I would definitely consider it. However, our team needs are too much to be giving away draft picks. But at the same time, what if we don’t get a starter at LT this draft year? I really don’t like to think about it. Now rent McKinney and trade down for more picks, I do like that scenario.

  • Cgoodness13

    Agreed, trade with Vikings. We can probally get fluker at 23 or 25, and probally a decent CB or G at what ever we get with their 2nd or other 1st we get with that.

    • Sergio Quintero

      have feeling Fluker is gone between cowboys or giants, so your talking more about Pugh/Watson or a corner.

    • Sergio Quintero

      espn’s division bloggers mock draft, had the chargers taking Jonathan Cooper at 11, D.J. Fluker going 18 to cowboys. And all 3 LT’s gone by pick 5.

  • FitzWilly

    Put your hand up if you wanna
    slap Eli around like a RedHeaded Step-Child

    am i right ladies :)

    • Sergio Quintero

      hand is up and in slapping position

      • FitzWilly

        I think Archie’s wife had an affair with a
        one legged Hobo, Hence Eli
        I’d be willing to bet he got beat up daily at school

        • FitzWilly

          Here’s Eli’s Real Hobo-Daddy

          • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

            hahahah

    • RussinSactown

      Do I get to back hand Archie too? I know it’s elder abuse but…

      • FitzWilly

        Yes you may RGIV
        In this case, we’ll look the other way

        I’m soooooooooooooooo glad we didn’t keep
        this intestine inspector

        Am I right Ladies :)

  • RussinSactown

    I am really for trading back. If we got at least down to St Louis I can see us grabbing Armstead and an ILB. If we trade for some of SF’s picks we can stock the roster pretty well. This is a deep draft for some of our need positions and if TT is as solid a talent evaluator as we think then he will find us some gems in those rounds.

  • davacho

    trade back… although the vikings scenario sounds most probable, there is an actual formula for determining draft value. obviously, motivation/desperation trumps that, but it serves as a baseline in assessing fair trade. that being said, i don’t see us getting both 1st round picks or even a 1st and their 2nd. thinking more like a 1st and 3rd? nfl.com has 4-5 teams trying to trade down, but we have been linked by gil brandt to trade UP with eagles to grab fisher. so pumped for thursday.

  • Gunnar Martin

    Has everybody forgotten the idea of trading with the Rams for Rodger Saffold?

    • tubbs45

      I’d before for it, how much will he cost (aside from the pick)?
      Check it: http://www.turfshowtimes.com/2013/4/12/4218066/what-would-rodger-saffold-be-worth-in-a-trade

      • Gunnar Martin

        Well I read somewhere else that he would be worth about a third round pick. Seems to be the same consensus on that article too. Or we could trade down to their 16 pick to lessen the blow. I very strongly believe this is the best way to go if no tackles are there, and I don’t understand why nobody else is catching on.

  • 619chargers4life

    i havent seen a trade up scenario as u just outlined. if we get to 6 and we keep our 3rd 4th 5th 6th and 7th like u outlined, im all for it and the players u have going with those picks are awesome as well. i probably wouldn’t go QB in the 7th though. and thats only because i still have to much faith in Rivers. but anyhow, good stuff.

  • C.Steele

    Good article Tom. Trade down scenarios makes sense (Vikings trade is my fav). However, you lost me on the trade up. There’s no way we trade up those 5 spots, and keep all the rest of our draft picks. For that reason and TT insistence on he intends to build the team through the draft, I don’t see him trading up and giving up valuable picks in a draft that purportedly is so deep. I don’t think the Tackles will be there at 11. I know we should then take one of two guards (and be happy we got them). I also know trading back and stockpiling more pics is a solid plan……But, if we went with S Vaccaro or DT Loutulelei, I think I would be more excited…Go Bolts!

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