Chris Watt over Donte Moncrief?!?

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Nov 23, 2013; Oxford, MS, USA; DUPLICATE***Mississippi Rebels defensive back Tony Conner (12)***Mississippi Rebels wide receiver Donte Moncrief (12) advances the ball during the game against the Missouri Tigers at Vaught-Hemingway Stadium. Missouri Tigers defeat the Mississippi Rebels 24-10. Mandatory Credit: Spruce Derden-USA TODAY Sports

I’m not going to lie, when we were on the clock with Donte Moncrief on the board in the third round I was SURE that he would be our pick. He was one of the receivers that I really loved in this draft class.

I truly believed that wide receiver was our second biggest need. I guess Tom Telesco feels more comfortable than I do with our current wide receiver group.

But why do I want Moncrief so bad ?

Here is why :

For starters, I have to say that to me, Moncrief is a second round talent, so in the late third round I saw a big steal. Moncrief dominated in college at a very young age. Of all rookie wide receivers, only Brandin Cooks is younger. Moncrief will finish his rookie season at the age of 21!! Plus if you want to be an elite wide receiver in the NFL you need to be tall and big. Moncrief is 6’2, 221 pounds. That’s exactly the type of frame that brings elite potential.

Here are some of his combine results :

40 yard dash : 4,40 sec

Vert Jump : 39,5 inch

Broad Jump : 132,0 inch

The guy is really explosive with elite top speed.

Now we all know that TT draft players who has been productive during their college career. So let’s check his college stats.

2011 : 31 Rec, 454 Yards,  4 TD

2012 : 66 Rec, 979 Yards, 10 TD

2013 : 59 Rec, 938 Yards, 6 TD

I know he didn’t have the production that other guys had, but he was a late third round pick also. My guess would be that Tom Telesco was scared about the fact that his 2013 wasn’t better than his 2012 season. That does raise some questions. They probably work their tail off to find why it happened and didn’t like what they found or maybe he doesn’t like football that much and doesn’t want to win badly enough for TT to draft him.

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  • Edward Sherman

    Probably next yr. WR for sure i don’t even want the free agents that are left out there ala santonio holmes.

  • davacho

    i’ve said this a few times before and i still believe it. rivers is the the type of QB that makes our WR better… he does not directly make the oline or defense better… i like watt where we took him.

    • Julien Bélair

      I know but without Allen we are screwed…he better be healthy

      • davacho

        not worried about our receiving crew whatsoever- injuries will happen, but as long as we give rivers time and keep him upright our top ranked offense (with both starters out last year and a rookie as our #1) will repeat as a force to be reckoned with.

        • Julien Bélair

          You right…. I guess i’m worried cause I want our O to be as good as last year or better… staying in the top5 O. I guess a G like Watt will help doing so

  • Michael Popowich

    I didn’t see WR as one of our top priorities for this draft, espec since there were so many to choose from. I can’t complain about getting more protection for Rivers.

  • Stefanie Smith

    That last pick of the draft was a receiver I believe. I read somewhere on another site that McCoy really campaigned for this guy. That is the receiver they were looking at.

    • Julien Bélair

      yes but we are not talking about a 6’2 220+ pounds receiver but a small speedy guy

      • Stefanie Smith

        I agree. You will get no argument from me. Maybe it is not even true that McCoy was hot on this Reese kid. I have no clue.

        On the other side, no one would ever admit or even consider that TT made a mistake. Nope, not happening.

        • Julien Bélair

          haha well I wish him the best and I hope he can contribute

        • tubbs45

          He was absolutely high on the kid. He is a BALLER. Yeah he is short, but it was a 7th round pick…

          • Julien Bélair

            worth the risk… looks like Desean Jackson on tape

          • Marco R.

            He isn’t even that short. He is 5’10 1/2. He is just skinny at 163 pounds. Needs to bulk up to 180? It’s going to be a crazy training camp and preseason i have too many favorite WRs. Inman, TuTu, and now this guy Reese and Chancellor.

          • tubbs45

            I just dont see how VBrown is still on the roster if he continues to play as crappy as last year. he just looked out of it, slow, bad route running,.. I cant wait to see what inman’s got in the tank!!!

          • Marco R.

            In his defense he was drafted to play in Norv’s offense not McCoy’s. He had come off a broken ankle. And now he will be two years removed from a broken ankle so hopefully he gets back some of his explosiveness. As far as route running, he better be training with Keenan on the offseason.

          • tubbs45

            VB was well known for him great route running, never his wheels! But because he was a norval pick, I could see him on the short list if he doesnt step it up!

          • Julien Bélair

            I could be a surprise cut !

          • BlueBoltFan

            I think he’s gonna get to about 175 lbs. About the weight of DeSean Jackson and Marvin Harrison.

          • Marco R.

            If he eats right he could be at 175 by the time the regular season starts.

          • BlueBoltFan

            In an NFL conditioning and nutrition program, absolutely.

          • Marco R.

            What I don’t get is why didn’t he try and add some muscle before hand? You’re 163 pounds and going into the NFL. Something doesn’t add up. Why wait so long to start gaining some weight?

          • BlueBoltFan

            Some people struggle to keep/put on weight. Paul Richardson had the same problem in college.

            But if he can’t get to at least 170-175, AND keep his speed, I don’t think he’ll hold up in the NFL.

          • Julien Bélair

            180 is my guess

      • BlueBoltFan

        Tevin Reese holds the NCAA record for TDs of 40+ yds. His game reminds me a lot of TY Hilton.

        • Julien Bélair

          Not a bad comparison at all !

        • Steve Valadez

          Hilton 5-9, 183. Ton of speed. Drafted by Telesco in Indy. Good comparison. Reminds me of Desean Jackson also. I think he won’t be a huge contributor until year 2 but that’s ok.

  • tubbs45

    No question I wanted Moncrief, but I understood taking a guard seeing how the situation will develop next year. Im still stumped on Watt over Turner though… Coach D and TT know what they want in their O Linemen, so I will ride with it, but I sure wasn’t happy during the draft with that pick.

    As far as Prospect risk assessment moncrief is not that much higher, considering where we picked him: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Ao4Uo4d8uAnhdFdLSlZPSW5HMUNka2otSkE5X1ExZ2c&gid=0

    http://i1276.photobucket.com/albums/y462/staffpicks/Animated_GIFs/flipped.gif

    • Julien Bélair

      Well if TT and coach D prefer Watt over Turner who am I to say anything about that

      • tubbs45

        totally agree. but we have our “wish list” players and that is where my disappoint comes from. In all reality the coach have forgotten more about football than I will ever know!
        By the way enjoy the read!

        • Julien Bélair

          Thanks very appreciated

  • BlueBoltFan

    I wanted Moncrief, too, but I’m not upset about the Chris Watt pick.

    I think if we hadn’t traded away our 4th round pick, there’s some chance we would have gone for Moncrief in round 3. Watt would probably be there in the 4th but would likely be gone by the 5th. Long term, the guard/center spot is a bigger issue as we have 3 starters on the o-line in the last year of their deals. TT went for the bigger need…especially if Floyd comes back. If so, Moncrief wouldn’t start this year anyway, and next year the issue can be addressed in the draft or free agency (when the Chargers will have between $25-35 million in cap space).

    • Julien Bélair

      You’re right about the fact that loosing our 4th round pick probably affected the decision. I sure hope Floyd will be back this season. If not.. I’ll miss Moncrief

  • 16Paws

    Moncrief’s numbers were down in 2013 because of a freshman phenom named Laquon Treadwell (#1 WR in the country). DM was constantly double-teamed, thus, the freshman put up impressive numbers. Moncrief was still the ‘go to’ guy, though, when the going got rough.

    • Julien Bélair

      You would prefer to have him over Watt?

  • Tazzster

    I think Dontrelle Inman was our WR pick up… 6-3 205.

    I think Watt might have been a reach, but maybe he was going to be our fourth round pick and we traded that away. Obviously there is something that the scouting team likes about this kid.

    I’m not too worried. I think they did a good job addressing the needs.

    • Julien Bélair

      I am ok with the trade up also. In fact I love the move we need a guy like Attaochu.

      I really hope Inman can be a good wr

      • Vincent

        Trading up in a draft is most of the time wrong because it bakes a false sense of certainty.

  • Sergio Quintero

    There was an opinion amongst scouts that Moncrief isn’t the greatest technician for his position nor have the greatest of work ethic, and that he’s underachiever, and that word and Telesco virtually the plague.

    I said before Telesco has the exact opposite approach to the draft of Al Davis, consistent production goes ahead of athletic potential, he will gamble on talented guys with excellent potential like Attaochu, but the guy had 12.5 sacks, and plays super hard, its not like he’s clueless project guy.

    In terms of Watt, the boys at Path to the Draft mentioned him for the last 2 weeks as a 3rd round pick, I can tell you the guy played really well against some really good defenses in Michigan State, USC this year and the championship against Alabama, the closest I have seen to a bad game is Will Sutton gave him some trouble vs. Arizona State.

    I put together a draft playlist for the chargers on youtube if anyone is interested:

    • Julien Bélair

      thanks Sergio !

      • tubbs45

        fun at 2:29 on the Attaochu film, his brother is already wearing the chargers hat before they find out the pick….

    • Marcel West-Bailey

      Somehow I missed the Texas Tech tape….good lord. I’m so happy we drafted him.

      • Gunnar Martin

        That was some DANG good football right there. His tackling was amazing.

        • Marcel West-Bailey

          See now what if we don’t do well this year and we get Ifo Ekpre-Olomu. Unstoppable secondary.

          • Gunnar Martin

            OR what if we DO do well and still get him? That sounds much better to me :)

          • Marcel West-Bailey

            That sounds great but I don’t think you can have your cake and eat it too. It’s obviously wayy to early to do one but I saw a mock where he went 7th overall.

          • Gunnar Martin

            Yeah, but why not hope at this stage in the process, right? Like you said, it’s too early in the process for any guarantees, so we still have a chance at him :)

          • Marcel West-Bailey

            Don’t use my words against me lol. But he’s a top 15 pick. If we don’t have a good season this year we’ll have a shot. But if we play well I’m fairly sure Telesco isn’t going to trade up.

  • powderBLUE801

    I’m not going to lie. I was pissed at first but after watching some tape on watt I think it will pay in the long run. We will BOLT UP like we do every year and cheer for our boys. ⚡️⚡️

    • Julien Bélair

      of course we will !!

  • Marcel West-Bailey

    Screw Moncrief. Andre Johnson wants out of Houston. SIGN HIM TELESCO! SIGN HIM!

    • Sergio Quintero

      What is the cost 2nd and 5th I would guess, that was the price for Brandon Marshall wasn’t it?

      • tubbs45

        Seems a bit high for AJ

        • Sergio Quintero

          Better player than Marshall but older as well, what price is the maximum you would be willing to give up?

          • tubbs45

            without the cap considerations, I would say a 3rd.

          • Sergio Quintero

            I know why he wants out of Houston, Ryan Fitzpatrick is his QB, yikes, I would want out as well, please Houston don’t trade him to the power 4: Pats, Broncos, 49ers, Seahawks.

          • tubbs45

            SEND HIM TO THE BROWNS!!!!!

        • Sergio Quintero

          The hope for Cox being a hit died quickly after AJ made his bitch the first game of the season, I pretty much lowered my expectations after then and he still kept disappointing me.

        • Marcel West-Bailey

          Naw I don’t think so. Let’s be honest. Our offense is pretty much set. Adding him can only get better. If everything stays the way it is this year we’ll probably draft for depth on offense. I think he’s worth it.

          • Marco R.

            Naw I’ll pass on Johnson. I would much rather we go out and get Miles Austin. It wouldn’t cost us anything and I think Austin can still be a threat. Yea he has been injured in the last few seasons but he can still play if he is healthy.

          • Marcel West-Bailey

            Austin? Seriously? He crumbles quicker than cookies. That “if he’s healthy” is a big part. What’s the point of signing another Danario Alexander?

          • Marco R.

            That’s like saying what’s the point if Floyd comes back. They are equally productive and equally injury prone.

          • Marcel West-Bailey

            Because Floyd is already ours. He still has a few years left on his deal and he’s a part of the team. I’d rather keep a injury prone guy that’s already part of the team, than bring in an injury prone guy that has to learn everything. Opposed to Andre who doesn’t have durability issues and was considered the best WR in the league at one point.

          • Marco R.

            I really doubt Austin would be expensive to get. One year prove it deal should suffice. It’s football and he is a veteran, I really doubt he has to learn “everything”. Floyd played two games last season in a new system before getting injured so technically you could say he needs to learn everything. I’d much rather take a risk on Austin who is barely going to turn 30 and won’t cost us a draft pick, than Johnson who will be 33 and would cost us a future pick.

          • Julien Bélair

            F**** Austin

      • Marcel West-Bailey

        Close. Chicago set 2 3rd round draft picks to Miami for BM….lol

        • Sergio Quintero

          2 and 5, was the price from denver to miami. seems unlikely, since the chargers appear hopeful for Floyd returning.

          • Marcel West-Bailey

            Gotcha. I actually tried to get a picture with him when he was in Miami but he was sitting on the bench and he didn’t look very happy. So I took his photo instead. But that’s a good point. I really hope Floyd is healthy and playing but what if he can’t finish the entire season due to agitation? Or God forbid he gets injured? If we ease him into it while Johnson is catching passes left and right. Shoot you may be able to play all Allen, Floyd, and Johnson altogether.

    • Stefanie Smith

      Omg, I would love that.

    • Julien Bélair

      I would be down for him

    • Alter Ego

      Nice…I like that.

  • Parker Richardson

    The fact that they went Watt in the third tells me that Coach D thinks he can be more than just depth. I’m expecting Watt to surprise us all and start this season at guard and at center next year!

    • Sergio Quintero

      The more I think about it Clary is staying, the chargers have one backup Tackle in the entire roster, and you typically want 4 guys that can play tackle on your roster, they do have 4 if Clary stays.

      Add to the fact no OT draft pick, and an underwhelming group Oline UDFA’s and the odds are definitely in Clary’s favor to stay for another year.

      • Parker Richardson

        That is a lot of money for Tackle insurance! But i agree that Clary is valuable there. But if Clary’s contract stands will the team have enough money to sign rookies?

        • Sergio Quintero

          Parker you are asking the wrong guy to show Clary love, his presence here is reaching the point of comedy, he must have pictures, if there is any reason to him staying it has to come with a pay cut.

          • Julien Bélair

            lol I agree

      • Julien Bélair

        They can release him and draft someone else….

  • Stefanie Smith

    We went down in the NFL Power rankings because the guy did not like the Verrett or Attaochu drafts. Had smart remarks to make about both. I had no idea Verrett had a torn labrum also. He about thinks Attaouchu stinks also.

    • Julien Bélair

      I’m sure he those guys were drafted by the Broncos he would love those picks…

      • Stefanie Smith

        Good point.

  • Marco R.

    If they don’t like what they see during training camp, I say we go after Miles Austin. Especially if Floyd doesn’t come back.

    • Julien Bélair

      I’m completely against Austin. He is injury prone and when he is not he is not productive at all

      • Marco R.

        Floyd is about as injury prone as Austin. With last year being the exception they both have had about the same production.
        Floyd 2012
        56 rec 814 yds 5 TDs 14 games played
        Floyd 2011
        43 rec 856 yds 5 TDs 12 games played
        Austin 2012
        66 rec 943 yds 6 TDs 16 games played.
        Austin 2011
        43 rec 579 yds 7 TDs 10 games played
        I fail to see how he is not productive. Last year he had a nagging hamstring injury but he should be good to go this season. He is still injury prone, but then again even if Floyd comes back i doubt he plays 16 games.

        • Marco R.

          @marcelwestbailey:disqus

  • zak p

    Was inconsistent. A lot of people had him overrated. I wanted Allen Robinson or lee. But im happy with our draft

    • Julien Bélair

      Adams in the second was my top choice. But I prefer Attaochu

  • tubbs45

    Trade Clary, throw in VB and a fifth round pick… and some cheetos

    • Marco R.

      maybe he can be reunited with Norv in Minnesota. Who do they really have at WR? Just Jennings and Patterson right? they could use a number 3.

      • tubbs45

        Simpson too

        • Marco R.

          Wasn’t he suspended? I think Brown would be better in Norv’s offense than simpson

  • MachoMenos

    If Watt can replace Jeromey “fold like a cheap suit” Clary, he will go down as Tom “Terrific’s” best draft pick for all eternity. This is known.

    • Marcel West-Bailey

      I think the same thing would go for most of who had to compete with Clary for the job

    • Julien Bélair

      I wish you are right sir

  • C.Steele

    Damn! Shoulda, Coulda, Woulda!!! Everyone needs to get over their coveted player that didn’t get picked by TT in the draft! Get on board with picks we got! I mean we haven’t even seen the team play a down or break a sweat. Boltup and stop the pissin and moanin! #GoBolts!

    • Julien Bélair

      That is not even one week away ! it’s the analyzing time right now