Why the Chargers’ 2013 Draft wasn’t all that and a bag of chips

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Apr 27, 2013; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers draft picks D.J. Fluker , Manti Teo and Keenan Allen pose for a photo with their jerseys during a press conference at Chargers Park. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports

Apr 27, 2013; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers draft picks D.J. Fluker , Manti Teo and Keenan Allen pose for a photo with their jerseys during a press conference at Chargers Park. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports

We widely proclaimed the 2013 draft as an unheralded success long before the 2013 season was underway and Keenan Allen was setting rookie records or DJ Fluker was pile-driving Raiders into their dirt field. In retrospect, some of the moves were highly questionable. History will tell us that no matter how well you think you draft, it is all just an educated guessing game. There will be some gems, and there will be some busts. Looking forward to the 2014 draft, lets take a look in retrospect at the 2013 draft to see just how well TT did in his first year as general manager.

There are well-documented holes all over the Chargers’ roster: cornerback, defensive tackle, guard, safety, receiver, depth everywhere, yada yada yada. We weren’t able to really get anywhere in free agency, but, TT will surely be able maximize the talent acquisition the draft like last year and fill up those holes, right? Looking at the draft last year, the expectation for A+ draft 2.0 is not as much of a guarantee as the increasing popular phrase “In Telesco We Trust” would suggest. Let’s take a look at how the 2013 draft worked out in terms of selection position, value added, and the opportunity cost of value we let slip on by…

 

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  • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    I think 4 (the first 4) of those guys will be starters this year plus Addae so 5 starters in 1 draft is pretty bad ass. We could possibly get 4-5 more starters out of this deep draft class, which will totally give us some serious depth and that’s all we can ask for!

    Side note: Anyone else see all the transactions being made everyday throughout the NFL and feel alittle cheated that we can’t afford anybody? Us and the Chiefs are just chilling in the cut waiting for draft day lol.

    • Stefanie Smith

      Silver was writing an article about the Skins signing Jackson and how some of the fans are freaking about the salary cap. He quotes Bill B, but calls him Wes Welker’s ex- coach. Here is what Bill has to say about salary cap: “…cap concerns are for losers. Winners find a way to make the cap work, and they refrain from whining about it when their team struggles.”

      Basically, the gist was that if you want to do it, you will. We could sign someone if TT wanted to and the Spanos family supported it. They don’t want to do it. Why? I have no idea. We may like TT but this is his first GM gig. … and we have a family of spoiled kids in it up to their ears (with no real football knowledge)…Maybe we have to wait and see.

      Silver also made a good crack when fans say “he’s not worth it”–saying like it is coming out of the fan’s pocket.. lol

      • Cooper

        Thats great but I don’t recall anyone from the Chargers organization complaining about their CAP situation. TT comes from the Polian tree and Polian himself to this day on ESPN says that FA is joke. It’s the highest bidder paying for previous production. Bill B is a good coach but IMO he’s not great. The Patsy haven’t won a SB since spygate and you can’t say it was because they lacked talent. They went 19-0 when the Sheli beat them. Without Tom Brady they are a .500 team.

        • Conor Cahill

          I dont think thats the point. Its if TT WANTED DJax, he could easily make room for him. He didn’t want him enough, didn’t want to get rid of the players to do so, didn’t do it. But he could have if he wanted to. Like you said, hes a Polian guy, so he will almost never want to haha. Polian = major pieces from draft, depth/ a couple quality starters from FA

          • Cooper

            You look at other successful teams in the past. the 9ers(SB 4X) with Bill Walsh(greatest coach of all time IMO), he picked his players through the draft and built the team. Chuck Knoll built the 70′s Steelers(SB 4X) through the draft. Polian with the Bills(SB 4X) and the Colts(2 SB) were perennial playoff teams. Though the latter weren’t as successful in the playoffs still great teams. Last years Seahawks, all the young built talent from the draft. I’m saying FA is all bad but it can be a serious trap, one that the Bolts are still recovering from.

          • Cooper

            *I’m not saying FA is all bad

          • Conor Cahill

            Ya I agree. FA in football is wayyyy overrated. 2011 Eagles. nuff said. Expensive contracts for past performance. Plus, a team drafted and developed together is just going to be better. I would much prefer not signing anyone than going all out in FA.

    • Conor Cahill

      If the trade off is that we dont have to sit through years of bad contracts/space wasters (Gaither, Cox, Meachem, etc) then Im fine with it for this year.

  • shane

    I agree with almost all of your evaluations, however I disagree with the view on on the te’o vs alonso pick. Te’o once viewed as a potential top 5 pick, and a guaranteed lock for the 1st rd, then the scandal happened and the slow 40 time but he was still expected to go late 1st rd nonetheless. Alonso was a total wildcard. Nobody would’ve anticipated the level of success he had. A solid athlete but undersized, I don’t think many people if any would’ve thought he’d go before te’o. So while giving up the 4th rounder does kinda suck, agreed, picking alonso over teo a year ago was far from a no brainer. Manti looks to be a solid starter for years to come, worst case. That’s a solid pick for a 2nd rounder. A- on the 2nd rd pick.

    • Conor Cahill

      True. To me, the expectations for TT have just gotten a little out of control. He got lucky with the Allen pick and “unlucky” with the Teo trade. Its a crapshoot. He navigated well in his 1st year, but he could just have easily picked Jeremy Maclin or Hakeem Nicks and actually got burned by the injury concerns.

      • Stefanie Smith

        Exactly! A lot of this drafting is luck. That is what scares me about it. Many don’t believe it, but I think we are close to making a decent run in the playoffs/SB. It’s frustrating to end up waiting longer if TT makes a mistake or gets it wrong. or the player is a bust. Then we put the added pressure on these rookies to start immediately and make an impact–right now. Seems awful risky to me. Cheap but risky.

        • Conor Cahill

          (I’m one of those people). However, where I would give TT credit is he doesn’t try to do too much. The Te’o trade was unnecessary, but at least he didnt try to take the 4th best LT or trade out of a top pick. He went with BPA a lot which I love.

    • Gunnar Martin

      There’s also a good chance that even if we had picked Alonso, he wouldn’t have had anywhere near the success he had in Buffalo just because it is simply not the same environment. The Bills are obviously a fantastic fit for him. There’s no guarantee that he would have had the same production in San Diego.

  • gpack17

    keep in mind the fact that teo played last season on a broken foot..not too bad..but when you have a guy like that and a guy like rivers who plays on a torn acl..that shows you the character of those 2 guys..in the long run i think teo will not be bad..guy works hard…

    • Conor Cahill

      ya dont get me wrong, I like Teo. But in retrospect, we could have esily ended up with the DROY and OROY in rounds 2 and 3 without moving. Now that would be an A+ draft

      • Stefanie Smith

        Agreed. We didn’t need to move up to get T’eo, for sure.

      • shane

        woulda coulda shoulda, like you said before draft is not a perfect science. I still say a solid starter (worst case for teo) in the second is sweet. tough to gripe too much b/c somebody was better later on. We could do that all day w/practically every pick in every draft. be grateful for what we did get and that we didn’t trade up for lane johnson, or end up with dee milliner or david amerson. solid work TT.

        • Conor Cahill

          Ya exactly, but we can look the other way and say well what if Keenans knee was shittier than we thought? What if Te’o cracked under the pressure? These are things you cant control that happened to work out for us, just as someone else drafted later happened to be better than Teo. It works both ways, and thats why I bring it up. He got lucky with Allen, comparatively unlucky with Teo. In an imperfect science, that cannot be used to create unrealistic expectations for TT for every draft moving forward. If TT knew that Keenan Allen was going to be this good, he would ahve pulled the trigger in the 2nd, or even the 1st. But, he didn’t, he just had an idea, a guess. He happened to guess right at a spot that made him an absolute steal. Not exactly conducive evidence to crown TT just yet.

      • nope

        youre a moron, not even butler had a good season because he didnt have a good NT and yet you think alonso will have a good year here… stupid. bills have one of the best d-line and they play a 4-3.

        also alonso would’ve never played on 3rd downs as we the team doesn’t run the 3-4 on 3rd downs with two ILBs on the field to cover the passes, its strictly Butler in there.Kiko played over 1000 snaps just to get 100 or more tackles, he would only sniff 700 here and would’ve never look good, i doubt he would’ve done better than Manti in the same situation

        • Conor Cahill

          Thats a good point (not the moron part ;)) I personally think we should play a 4-3. Other than having both Te’o and Butler, I think our personnel is a much better fit for it. Could have also saved a few bucks too if we had alonso in a 4-3 and let Butler walk.

          Other than that, you are speculating just as much as me assuming Alonso wouldnt have any success just because he would play less snaps.

    • Stefanie Smith

      I didn’t like the T’eo signing at first because I thought he would be a distraction and a show boater. He isn’t. He wants to be part of the team and he is trying. Yes, he was injured last season. So give him another year. We expect a lot out of rookies these days; whereas, in the past, they were given time to acclimate themselves to the NFL.

  • Edward Sherman

    well we will find out alot more of TT evaluating free agent talent next yr not sure who will be available but we will have alot of dough to play with.

  • Roy Hobbs

    I crack up everytime I hear the name, kiko Alonzo- he plays for a team that has four dominate down line men. The d line is stout and that helps out a lot. Te’o played decently last year considering his foot was injured the whole season, and he still led the team in tackles for a loss. He’s a smart football player that you’ll probably catch slippin once with a play, but not twice. Anyone who was expecting ray Lewis obviously never watched him play in college

  • Roy Hobbs

    Are there any other middle linebackers picked in last years draft that anyone would like to compare to manti that didn’t get drafted to a team with a ridiculously good defense??

  • 1961 Fan

    It happens every year, and every team says “we got the players we wanted” Bull Shit! The teams got the players that were left. The number one pick team is the one that got the one they wanted. As for the Bolts 2013 draft, they got a play maker in the third round that may just be the best player in the entire draft for that year. The number 2 choice was a stretch (take away the early injury) as Te’o played ok after healing but is no HOF player. Fluker was what was left after the three OT’s had been taken and is a very good line man. Fans must realize that a great college player does not always make a good Pro Player. The draft is a gamble, and if you are choosing after the 15th spot you might as well trade down and pick up numerous second and other late rounders. Just look at the big bonus the Chargers got with Keenan Allen.

  • I_Bleed_Powder_Blue_801

    Not a bad analysis Conor! Here’s something I’d like you guys to think about…How long will it take for San Diego’s Defense to be a formidable one without any glaring holes??? Can Pagano coach that type of D consistently? Will it take a different Defensive Coordinator?
    I was having a talk with my 75 year old dad the other day when I was telling him all the hype about our Chargers (how they are making all these strides to build a better team). He says to me, “Yeah, that’s all good, but everytime San Diego gets good players, they let them go to another team or the players eventually get old before they win a Championship”…
    He was basically cracking up at me for being so ate up about all things Chargers…
    It’s fun and exciting to talk about the upcoming Draft and all the possibilities. However, IF this D cannot grow leaps and bounds before good ol’ #17 retires, it will be more of the same roller coaster ride…(Strong Offense, so so Defense OR Awesome Defense, so so Offense)
    So far, it looks like they are on the right track especially with all the dead money going away next season, team building through the draft, etc,.but only time can tell…I’m tired of waiting for the Draft to come. It’s torture for a guy like me that only loves football and no other sport…I can’t wait for the season to get here already.