Dec 22, 2013; San Diego, CA, USA; Oakland Raiders quarterback Matt McGloin (14) is pressured by San Diego Chargers linebacker Melvin Ingram (54) during the first half against the Oakland Raiders at Qualcomm Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Kirby Lee-USA TODAY Sports

How Can Chargers Get Their Defense To Play Like That?


Defense still wins championships. Defense still is king. After Peyton Manning broke records all season long, we saw that the Seattle Seahawks ridiculous defense was far superior on Sunday night.

The Chargers know what they need to do in order to beat Peyton Manning and the Broncos. The Seahawks roster is full of talent on the defensive side of the ball, but the Chargers need to build their team in the same demeanor. The Chargers needs to stack up the defense with speed and hard-hitting players.

The Chargers seem a long way away from matching the Seahawks talent on the defensive side of the ball, but we have some pieces that we can work with. We have young athletic players to the equation that will contribute. We just need to go into the offseason building on it.

We need more pass rush. We need to get to the quarterback and disrupt everything Peyton Manning does in the pocket. We need a secondary that can shut things down. We need athletic linebackers that are able to make big hits and shut things down. We need a pair of safeties that can track down everything.

IS THAT ALL!?!

We have some good players that can do things already. Melvin Ingram is one piece to that puzzle. Donald Butler is a big piece to the puzzle. Eric Weddle is awesome. This defense needs to strike fear around the league.

We need more talent. We need more talent!

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  • Stefanie Smith

    Drive and focus and buying in. They are obsessed over there in Seattle and put in tons of time in the off season outside of camp. I don’t think our guys, both offense and defense, practice enough or spend enough time at it.

    • Julien Bélair

      Yeah but lets not forget that there is no magical formula to win a SB or to be the best team. They are a good example but one of many.

  • Gunnar Martin

    One of the bigger keys to building such a dominant team is hitting it out of the park with later draft picks. A lot of their more talented guys weren’t first, second, or even third rounders. Huge part of becoming successful.

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      a lot of their stars were 5th round and later guys!!! that is the most impressive part of that defense

      • Julien Bélair

        I think this is about good coaching and being able to develop your team’s talent. That’s why when we have players like Addae I root for the chargers to give them a shot and develop them instead of always give up on a player after one year and a half or less.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          As Arnie also mentioned on this thread, I’m not very confident Pagano is capable of doing that, so it’s either get a better defensive coordinator, or get predeveloped players that come from programs that are ahead of the curve… like Fluker, for example. The good news is that Pagano has a man-crush on Addae, so maybe he’ll pay special attention in developing him, even if he isn’t capable of developing all of the talent he needs to coach up.

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        The MVP was a seventh rounder! Golden Tate was a UDFA. Pete Carroll knows what he’s doing.

        • Sergio Quintero

          Sorry Pete I think you are confusing Kearse with Tate, Kearse UDFA, Tate a 2nd rounder from Notre Dame.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            My bad… you are absolutely correct.. Kearse is who I meant. He scored a TD in the game, too.

          • Gunnar Martin

            A freaking awesome TD at that.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      I love how Carroll doesn’t mess around, and gets big prototypical DB’s.
      Brandon Browner 6’4″ / Richard Sherman 6’3″ / Kam Chancellor 6’3″ / Simon Tharold 6’2″ / Chandler Fenner 6’1″ / Byron Maxwell 6’1″ / Jeremy Lane 6’0″ / Walter Thurmond 5’11″…. Earl Thomas is the shortest guy back there at 5’10″, except for Jeron Johnson, who is also 5′ 10″ (but barely plays).
      Here is what we have.

      Crezdon Butler 6′ 1″ / Derek Cox 6’1″ / Marcus Cromartie 6’0″ / Shareece Wright 5’11″ / Richard Marshall 5’11″ / Johnny Patrick 5’11″ / Darrell Stucky 5′ 11″ / Brandon Taylor 5’11″ / Eric Weddle 5′ 11″ / Jahleel Addae 5’10″ / Marcus Gilchrist 5’10″ / Stevie Williams 5’10″

      There are only two DB’s taller than I am on the entire roster!!! That’s why it drives me crazy to see these “mock draft experts” who have SD picking another 5′ 10″ CB. The two tallest DB’s we have are the two worst CB’s on the team. Can we PLEASE get some size & strength this offseason? Most #1 WR’s are tall. No wonder we always get burnt = /

      • Sergio Quintero

        Draft wish lets get Stanley Jean-Baptiste or Keith McGill in the 2nd-3rd round round area.

        • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

          just get both

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Totally on board with that. In a perfect world, I want to get a starting #1 CB in free agency, and let a guy like Baptiste or McGill get up to NFL speed first. The problem is, that I’m not confident we have enough cap room to get a NT, a CB, and whatever else we need $ for. DARN YOU JARED GAITHER & ROBERT MEACHEM!!!! I will never forgive those two wastes of space!

          • Sergio Quintero

            Starting corner yes, star corner no

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            Yeah.. we don’t have “star” money, regardless… so starting is fine with me, until the new guy can step in. Just not “Derek Cox” kind of starting.. hahaha!

          • Sergio Quintero

            CBs to look at:
            Alterraun Verner Titans
            Terrell Brown 49ers
            Sam Shields Packers
            Walter Thurmond Seahawks

          • Gunnar Martin

            Verner will be way out of our league. Any idea how expensive Corey Graham would be from the Ravens?

          • Sergio Quintero

            Verner & Shields you are probably right, for the other 3 & Graham it probably will cost Cox money (4 years 20 million) or a little less.

          • Julien Bélair

            you forgot about vatea davis

          • Sergio Quintero

            I didn’t I just thought he was too expensive to include, he and Grimes are completely out of the chargers price range. Plus I suspect both those guys will be franchise tagged anyway.

          • Julien Bélair

            grimes would be a patch mode

          • Stefanie Smith

            You are right, Pete. I checked today on overthecap.com . They estimate right now that we are over. We still have the second phase of the Gaither and Meachem? deal that will hit the salary cap. We spread it out over a couple of years so we could take care of business last year.

            Weddle and Rivers could do a restructure. I am sure they will do it. Plus, I seriously think Malcolm is done, so his salary will be out, but I think we still owe him something.

            A few cuts and some restructuring. That should help. There are plenty of teams that they are estimating will be over the cap. Maybe they will raise the salary cap a bit.

        • Julien Bélair

          those are the two guys I really like too

  • Sergio Quintero

    First off, in terms of scheme and coaching, play physical in the secondary, challenge the officials to call illegal contact on every play, guess what they wont. And yes a veteran and rookie added to this roster is a must.

    They need 3 or more pass rushers on this roster that can really play, they have Ingram & Freeney, I expect either in the 1-3 round to get another. In the 1st round I like: Ford, Van Noy – for the 2nd Sam, Murphy, Crichton, Bradford, Martin.

    Sounds simple but hit harder and play to the shadow of the whistle, have teams call you dirty, you think it wouldn’t help to beat Broncos if Manning hit the ground hard 5 or more times in one game, or blow some receiver crossing the middle.

    The chargers have to get a credible Nose Tackle, I will repeat till blue in the face the picking are slim in the draft, have to get a veteran in here, and its a damn good market: Linval Joseph, Paul Soliai, Aubrayo Franklin, Terrence Cody, B.J. Raji are all free agents, have to get one of them here.

    Pagano please study what other teams are doing, you know that old man in pittsburgh has some really creative blitzes, maybe just maybe you can add them to your playbook.

    • Julien Bélair

      Louis Nix would be perfect but I know i’m dreaming

      • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

        Don’t think that is too big of a dream

        • Julien Bélair

          Gilbert then?

          • Gunnar Martin

            Now that’s a dream… I wouldn’t count Nix out though, lots of things happen between now and the draft.

          • Julien Bélair

            plus he has knee issues and weight control problem

          • Gunnar Martin

            Right. Would Hageman be able to play nose tackle or is he just considered a 4-3 defensive tackle that can also play end in a 3-4?

          • Julien Bélair

            well they say he can play NT but this is clearly is not his best suit. At 6’6 318 lbs he is too tall and not big enought to be a pure NT.
            He would be a great 4-3 DT or D-end in 3-4 and 4-3. So anywhere but NT.

            With that being said, I think we should switch to a 4-3 defense and we have the personnel to do it even more if we draft him but Pagano will never make this move,

          • Gunnar Martin

            Too bad. He’s a beast. And yes, there’s no way Pags decides to go away from the 3-4. I think our best bet for a NT is through FA.

          • Julien Bélair

            That is also my bet. TT will bring a Vet for a 1 or 2 years contract to give him time to find one

          • Julien Bélair

            I will say something that no one have said yet but we do need an upgrade at DE and depth. To me Reyes is not a lock starter anymore. So if this beast is available at 25 maybe they will draft him and make him compete for a starter spot or rotate him with Liuget and Reyes

  • Stefanie Smith

    These guys were talking about the Seattle D on NFL Network. Brian Baldinger said the Seattle D is the answer to the spread offense. Seattle D can shut down a spread offense or at the very least cause some serious problems.

  • Stefanie Smith

    Hey, Pete helped a lot in building that Seattle D, but their GM did the bulk of scouting. Pete talks about the guy all the time.

    • Gunnar Martin

      Word. That guy deserves more credit. Carroll was a huge part of it, but John Schneider might be the real mastermind.

      • Julien Bélair

        Wrong they are equally responsible. Do not underestimate the value of developing talent

  • arnie

    I’m going to go in another direction. First it took Pete Carrol 4 years to get those results. By working with a GM that knows exactly what they were looking for in players, that did not have to come in the first round. Carrol got his wish list, he had a vision of what a Championship team should look like. Was very specific of the type of players he wanted at every position. More importantly he had a coaching staff that taught great technique football, and did not try to shoehorn them into a pre-established mold.

    Now, Telesco has show he is not afraid to dump players that do not work out, no matter the cost. So has seattle. While McCoy has not won a Championship in college or the NFL, he has still shown his plan has paid dividend in his first year as HC. Carrols team was bit more of a mess an took him 2 years to find a QB.

    See, for me the seattle D is a measuring stick, of being smart about WHO you draft, not WHERE you draft. Very few of those players were above the 3rd round. Which is why I question Pagano and is he the right guy for the job? Granted this was his first year under T&M and the players are learning to play together. The Legion Of Boom was not born overnight. However, better angles, tackling, swarming to the ball, and challenging EVERY PASS, in a QB driven league is not something you need better players for. Just better coaching.

    The Chargers are still trying to figure out who they are. The seahawks new who they were last year, and it carried over to this year. With a chip on their shoulder, and consistency, they rode it all the way to a championship. At the end of the day, the seahawks DID NOT CARE about manning legacy, and it showed. Fo that matter they did care about anyone, but their abilities and belief they could beat anyone.

    Does that last part sound familiar? It should. The Chargers believed the same thing, when nobody gave them a chance. Now they need to be more consistent, and bring an attitude.

    Pete Carrol an His GM had an Attitude

    Telesco an McCOy have an attitude as well. WIN NOW.

    • Tazzster

      The short version….

      Draft bigger, faster dudes to play football.

      • Gunnar Martin

        Hahaha true

      • arnie

        Nah that’s only half right. without the coaching you’re the 2-14 chiefs.

  • vct

    My possible solution to upgrading our defense is…..PEDs…tada! How many guys on the seahawks were tested? Chances of shermans test cup has a hole in it out of all tests done in the league? I bet there are guys still undetected just BC they’re so good at hiding the fact they’re using it. I don’t doubt they got the skills but three of your top dB’s were tested? Sherman got away with testing, thurdman suspended for four weeks? One other was suspended completely?come on…..

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      the answer is so simple… haha

  • vct

    Let’s use the spray ray lewis was using lol.

  • Nick Mansoor

    Justin Gilbert would be an awesome addition to this squad. An excellent ballhawk with great eye to hand coordination and hey, the kid can return kicks too. I dont think we will draft a CB in the first round though, since this class is deep with secondary players, a pass rusher would most likely be a top priority in the 1st round. But still, Gilbert would be nice if their isnt anyone else available by pick 25

  • 1961 Fan

    This time of year everyone is an expert; it will take at least two more years of building to get the defense just right. Hopefully Rivers can stay healthy until the Bolts figure out who is going to be the next franchise QB. I hope they don’t wait until Rivers is injured to start that plan. For now, it is most imperative that the Chargers address their secondary and O line problems.