Dissecting The Charger’s Loss In Miami

Nov 17, 2013; Miami Gardens, FL, USA; San Diego Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers (17) is sacked against the Miami Dolphins during the second half at Sun Life Stadium. The Dolphins won the game 20-16. Mandatory Credit: Joe Camporeale-USA TODAY Sports

 

Sunday was another tough loss to swallow. It has left us all wondering why this offense can’t score touchdowns, and settles for mostly field goals. Let’s start by admitting that the defense (the secondary, in particular) couldn’t cover a one-legged sloth, and couldn’t tackle a stationary dummy. Corey Liuget made a huge mistake after drawing a roughing the passer penalty. That ended up negating a turnover, and lead to a Miami touchdown. Still, when you look at the fact that Miami was held to just 20 points (4 scores on 10 drives), that isn’t an insurmountable lead. However, scoring 16 points on 10 drives (1 TD, and 3 FG’s) will not win you games. In that regard, I put most of the blame on the offense. Let’s look at what the difference in the game was.

Penalties:

Looking at the stats, the game was actually pretty even. In fact, the Chargers were better, or were even, in almost every category. The one category that stands out like a sore thumb is that San Diego had 10 penalties for 76 yards. Miami only had 3 penalties for 15 yards. The Chargers played an undisciplined game yesterday, and it cost them the win. In addition to Liuget’s unacceptable penalty, Thomas Keiser had two offside calls & a neutral zone infraction. That’s 3 penalties on one player! Lawrence Guy was also caught offside. On offense, Gates lost fifteen yards on a big reception for a facemask penalty. Rivers made an illegal forward pass in the red zone that put us on the 9 yard line, instead of the 5. The penalty cost us a down, to boot. Clary got called for holding, pushing us back 10 yards. Keenan Allen topped it off with a taunting call on the next play, which cost them 15 yards, and we punted.

You can say that the last one on Keenan was a tick-tack call. However, you MUST maintain your composure, and get back to the line for the next play. This was a must win game, and the team had already been penalized NINE times. In short, both veterans & newbies alike couldn’t keep their cool on Sunday. That is on the players, not the coaches.

Defense:

Penalties were rampant on the defensive side of the ball. We gave Miami 1st & 5 four times, and erased a much needed turnover. Aside from that, nobody could tackle, and we kept giving up big chunks of yardage on first & second down. To put it in perspective, Miami only converted 2 out of 10 third downs. However, the Dolphins converted a ton of first downs ON first down. They didn’t seem to need 3rd down conversions, because they kept getting them on first & second down. Last week the Dolphins ran for TWO yards! This week, they ran for 104 yards on 19 attempts, averaging 5.5 yards per carry. The Dolphins ran three backs, and none of them finished below 4.3 yards per carry.

The Chargers front seven could not contain Ryan Tannehill, either. He looked a lot like Jake Locker did, at times. He had 4 runs for 21 yards, and averaged 5.3 yards per attempt. This team has got to get better at defending the run, and containing mobile QB’s. We are worlds away from where this run defense was last season. I won’t even get into the passing defense too much. Let’s just say that Tannehill converted 15 first downs through the air. The only way this team seems to do well against the pass is if one of the opposing receivers drops the catch.

 

Ryan Mathews & Ladarius Green:

Ryan Mathews was phenomenal in this game. He had 127 yards on 19 carries, and averaged 6.7 yards per carry. When he gets over 20 carries, and racks up 100+ yrds, we usually win. Whisenhunt, ironically stopped him at 19 carries, and 127 yards. I guess we will never know why. (Is that why we lost? Hmmmm). Never the less, what a performance by RM24! He, once again, showed that he has turned a corner. He was easily the best player on the field. He has had three big runs in the last two games. These are the runs that we have all been waiting for. Before River’s pass to Vincent Brown was picked off, and ended the first drive, Mathews was given the ball 6 straight times for 41 yards. Woodhead ran for 7 on the next play, and it was clear that they were a one-two punch that Miami was struggling to stop. I guess it’s just typical that after all that success running the ball on the first drive, Vincent Brown runs a bad route, and Rivers pass goes to the only player on the field he should be avoiding… Grimes. Green also had another impressive game, and finished as the top receiver with 4 catches for 81 yards. So, yeah… can we get us some more Mathews & Green, please?

Red Zone Offense:

The Chargers went to the red zone just three times in this game. Both Green & Mathews put the team into the red zone all three times. After Johnny Patrick’s first quarter interception, Green caught a 32 yard pass, which put us at the Miami 17. Woodhead then ran for 5 yards, and Mathews got a rare red zone carry for 7 yards. Gates finished it off with a TD grab. THAT’S how you score in the red zone, folks!

In the second quarter, Mathews ran for 15 yards, and then another 8 yards on the next play to put it on the Miami 19. Then, John Phillips made a 13 yard grab, which put them at the 6. Mathews was run up the middle for just a yard. But, instead of sticking with him, or running Woodhead, they switched to the pass again. Rivers automatically got penalized 5 yards for an illegal forward pass to Gates. He should have just hung onto it, and ran it in for a TD, or to the one yard line. The ball got moved back to the 9 yard line, the down counted, and they were forced to throw to Brown for another incompletion. We settled for a game tying field goal.

Mathews later broke off a 51 yard run, which again put us on the Miami 19 yard line at the end of the 3rd quarter. However, he was immediately pulled from the game. They ran Woodhead for a yard, passed to Green for 4 yards, and threw an incompletion to Keenan Allen. They settled for the field goal again. But, at least they gave Green a shot at a red zone play, I guess. It was Green’s only one of the game down there. Ryan Mathews was given just 2 red zone opportunities for all of his hard work.

I can’t really bitch a whole lot about the red zone coaching. They called it perfectly on the first attempt. Philip screwed up the second attempt. However, instead of going Woodhead/Green/Allen/field goal, I would have run Mathews in the third red zone possession. Especially, after he just broke off 51 yards. Perhaps they thought he might be too tired after that absolutely clutch play he made? They did spread it out to different players this week. Some plays were successful, and others were not. The bottom line is that there really weren’t many to go around. There were only 12 red zone plays run, to be exact. Furthermore, there weren’t any ran after the 14:52 mark in the 4th quarter. Perhaps that was the bigger red zone problem this time. I pretty much credit that final stat to the o-line, who allowed 3 sacks in the final quarter, after playing admirably for most of the game.

The red zone play breakdown is as follows. What are your thoughts? Could the coaching & play calls been any better this week? I feel the loss can be blamed on pretty much everyone, honestly. Not just the coaches. Onward, and upward to Kansas City!!!!

Red Zone Plays

(2) – Nick Novak = 2 FG’s

(2) – Mathews = 2 runs – one for 1 yard / one for 7 yards

(2) – Woodhead = pass for 5 / run for 1

(2) – Gates = pass for a 5 yard TD / one TD called back for a Rivers penalty

(1) – Phillips = 1 pass for 13 yards

(1) – Green = 1 pass for 4 yards

(1) – Allen = 1 pass for zero yards

(1) – Brown = 1 pass for zero yards

 

 

Keep Bolting Toward Excellence!

Peter Thompson

Topics: San Diego Chargers

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  • Tazzster

    I can bitch about the Red Zone play calling…

    When we had it at the 6 we should of ran it 3 times (maybe 4). We should be able to get 6 yards in 3 carries. If we have proved anything this year – it is that passing in the Red Zone is not effective for us. Go Big and smash the ball in! How many teams fail to score from the 6 yard line?

    I really think Whisenhunt gets too ‘cute’ in these situations. There is a time for running the footbal and its not just on first down. 1st and Goal at the 6 is the time to run, run, run!

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Couldn’t agree more. Not sure what that Play call for the second down pass was. .. but Rivers ran it himself cuz nobody was open. Them he shoveled it again in a panic. That’s the second dumb shovel play this year inside the 5. Even if he kept it, that ball ous on the one, not called back to the NINE! Also, Whisenhunt only gives Mathews one chance on first down, and he’s outta there if it fails. So short-sighted after all of the passing failures we’ve had down there.

      • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

        If Rivers only would have ran that one in!

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Mathews should have run it in, but Philip is a ball hog. So is Whiz in the red zone. They want this to be a top rated passing offense SO badly, that they are completely ignoring tje fact that they aren’t the Patriots. They ignore Mathews, who is their best red zone weapon. Rivers was about to get creamed anyway.. he’s the last dude we need on IR. Have you seen who would come in next? And I don’t mean Sorensen. They are too dumb to do that.

    • diomar espinal

      Thats the problem people still believe its whisenhunt. Phillip is the guy making all the pre snap adjustments guys hes rarely running what the OC is calling anymore. I said it in a previous post. Notice how we march up the field rather easily but when the field gets smaller we have no idea what to do. Its not Whisenhunt making the presnap reads and calls all the way up field its Phillip.

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        I saw that post. How is it Philip if Mathews isnt on the field? Or, McClain? For the record, it’s both of them at different times.. and sometimes at the same time… which I too posted before.

        • diomar espinal

          your right too buddy but im going to be honest with you. Im going to continue to lay the blame on Phillip because basically all season thats all we have done. Long drives for 3 points which clearly isnt winning us ballgames. I say im going to lay blame on Phillip because it hurts when you have to say this but it just doesnt seem like anything has changed with Phillip. New coaches setting up a system for him to succeed, new players but the same result. The guy has just proven time and time again that he cant get it done when the game matters. Not only that he cant get it done but more so that it just seems like he always has these mental lapses when the game is on the line. Tell me somthing boss, we played pitiful all game this week and we still had a chance to win the game? Phillip starts driving then once again good ol phillip shows up. Why did he not spike the ball and leave more then 23 seconds on the clock? More then enough time for atleast 2 plays which could possibly win us the game? Nope the guy does a fuckin hurryup and burns almost 20 seconds which sealed the game? Couple years ago he throws the ball out of bounds against the Jets on 4th down? Theres many more examples i can bring up. But the point is the guy just cant seem to get it done when it matters and for us to be chargers fans it really hurts. I try to say well maybe its the coaching staff which yes they have made some retarded decisions also. But overall as i said its basically new coaches and same results.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            I feel ya man. But, new coach doesn’t mean good coach. We love to scrutinize the last drive, but there is an old hockey saying… “nobody scrutinizes the last 58 minutes like they do the last two”.

            In this game, I’m not sure what that last drive was about. 1:54 left.. they call two designed plays inbounds, which ate 52 seconds, and only netted 17 yards? Then we finally throw a sideline pass to Gates for 8 yards, which only took SIX seconds, but netted half the yards of the first two plays in one tenth of the time. Then, Clary gives up a sack, and burns the last time out. At the Charger 37, we have a Tutu sighting for 21 yards. They spike the ball at the Miami 43. Then they throw another 17 yard pass to Tutu…. THIS WHERE I GET PISSED AT PHILIP… like you said… Instead of getting them to the line and spiking it w/ 19 / 20 seconds to go.. he runs a busted incomplete pass to Gates for less than a yard of potential. . Leaving 7 seconds on the clock. Then, Miami takes a timeout to avoid ten men on the field. Rivers walks to the sideline for the play approval.. which is throwing it to Vincent Brown.. your least explosive pass catxher… In a situation he has failed in all day. Brown doesn’t even stay in front of Grimes (who is 5′ 10″) for the jump ball.

            So Rivers failed.. Clary failed.. the coaches failed.. and every call that led to that failed. Philip has made some bone-headed decisions. I won’t defend him there. But, he has made this bad team look good too. This is more on the coaching for xalling bad personnel packages this aeason, or not straight up intervening.

          • diomar espinal

            Thank you for you input . You gave a perfect breakdown of what gappened. Now go back in time and tell me how many times you see these bonehead mistakes by rivers when it happens?

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            I guess what I’m saying is that the coaching and GM have been awful for so long, that you aren’t giving him a chance. He has improved dramatically from last yeat, and with no name receivers, a SLIGHTLY better rotating patchwork o-line, and a coordinator that only puts the right personnel on the field half of the time. Meanwhile, he gets sacked 3 times in the last 14 minutes. Sounds pretty jacked to me.

          • diomar espinal

            All you stated I cant disagree with. But threw it all these past 2 seasons we havent had the most talent on both sides of the ball. Thru minimal talent and bone head coaching Phillip has been able to keep us compitive with any team in the league. For that alone I give him alot of credit. It just seems like when he has to be the guy to make that big play to win the game, he cant and it always breaks you as a fan because you know he works hard and is a big competitor. Hopefully this is the year he proves me wrong.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            The biggest gripe I have with him is the “taunting the refs” call in Tennessee. Having said that, Pagano benched Cox in the final defensive drive, put in Crezdon Butler, on the outside in his FIRST game, and didnt put a safety anywhere near the play. Pahano gave up a game ending pass with seconds to go… that is why he will be gone next year… so will Cox.

          • diomar espinal

            Pagano has to go but I think we should give derrick one more chance. He is leaving this guy in single coverage on almost every play. Good coaches dont leave players like that single coverage as much as he leaves cox. I understand we have 3rd stringers rushing the passer which means he has to compensate for the lack of pass rush by blitzing. But a good coach who realized he had a potent offense would do what ? Why not stay in a basic shell rushing 4 ? Take minimal chances with our weakest unit and let our strongest unit take the chances which is the offense. But nope it always ends up being the opposite.

          • Stefanie Smith

            Taunting the refs call— Brady did it yesterday and nothing happened. They all argue with the refs. Those whackjobs just decided to call it on Rivers.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            I LOVE Philip’s firey attitude… but, that day… he went overboard. I know a lot of people think he didn’t, but I kept saying out loud in my living room “Get back to the line, Philip… they are going to throw a flag”!!! Then I was relieved that he started to walk away… but, then he turned, and gave one last chest-thrust in the ref’s direction, as if to say “C’mon, jerk”!!! That was when the flag came. Not going to protect him there. He should have kept walking away, but he didn’t.

          • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

            I am so tired of Pagano. Ready to have a new coordinator here in a hurry, but I was ready for a new one when we hired a new coaching staff.

          • diomar espinal

            Tell me if you notice this. TT brought in corners whose specialty lies in press man? apparently TT thought that that is the main defense we are going to run. If we were going to stick with this soft ass cover 3 defense wouldnt we have just kept cason out there? i mean i dont know i just dont get this guy. I know a previous poster said that he believes in the system and that its the players who have to make the plays. But to be honest tell me what fuckin team in the NFL runs primarily a cover 3 and is a top defensive team in the league? Every top defense in the league plays press man coverage or at the very least press cover 2 zone. If Pagano cant realize that zone cover 3 defense doesnt work in the NFL anymore the way it used to then this guy should be fired right after the season, something i really believe Telesco is going to do. I stated that he has to blitz more often because we cant generate a pass rush with our front 4 which i understand. But guess what, the Pats went to the SB a couple years back with the 32nd ranked defense in the league, a bunch of first year and 2nd year starters. Although they were ranked near the bottom they were in the top 15 in redzone defense and points allowed that year. My point is that a smart coach like Belichik isnt going to sit there and take stupid chances blitzing on every down with a weak unit the way pagano does. Hes going to stay in his cover 2 Man shell and make offenses have to drive the ball up field slowly instead of risking giving up giant gains on every down, which Pagano also does. What do you think my man?

          • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

            i have been thinking this same thing for a while. I wanted the change with the new coaching staff. though his defense has played soft and now players are not even playing up to the level that they were playing last season. his defensive scheme has been a joke. corners are 5 to 10 yards off of their wide receiver and they get off the line with ease. Even Vincent Brown could catch balls on this defense.

          • diomar espinal

            not only do they get off the line with ease but half the time we are sending blitzes leaving these guys on islands? Shareece and Derrick arent fuckin superstars so why does he insist on leaving these guys on islands with no help? Then us as fans only see the part where they get shitted on so we assume its their fault. News flash most Cornerbacks in the NFL not named Darrelle Revis or Joe Haden are going to get shitted on in single coverage with no help over the top. Hopefully like you said next year we bring some one in who actually can scheme according to his players abilities in order for us to start winning games. People say its that we dont have talent and its bullshit. A good coach or gameplan can always make up for the lack of talent.

      • Tazzster

        If it is Phillips fault then it is the responsibility of the coaching staff to take that ability away from him. But Phillip does not get to choose the personel.

        When they send in 4 wide recievers when you are at the 5 that kind of takes away power running plays – which I am beginning to think are not in Whisenhunts playbook.

        In addition, running a spread offense at the 5 is just retarded. You allow the defense to fill the whole endzone with its players and then you try to pass into that. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.

        If you want to run a pass play. Go power and bunch everyone together and then break out a TE for a corner route like the rest of the football teams in the country do.

        Like I have said before there are plays for scoring from the 5 yard line. OTHER TEAM are doing it. Go steal some of there plays if we can’t figure it out. But it is painfully obvious that whatever we are doing has not worked for the last 10 WEEKS!. Please try a DIFFERENT approach.

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      Definitely agree… He likes to get cute and t has not worked out well for us

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        Cheetos, Ernie. Cheetos.

  • Gunnar Martin

    I’m sorry Pete, but I skipped the article. It would have been too painful to read.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Eh… you wouldn’t be the first one.. my articles are long… but, after 3 decades, I have a lot to say. I’ve seen it all.

      • Gunnar Martin

        Oh I have no problem with the length, it was the content that did me in this time haha

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          It’s hard to swallow, I know. Hence the first line of the article. Yet, it says right there in my bio… “I’ve seen the good, the bad, and the ugly… and I’m going to post about it. Good luck, and God bless”. Hahahaha!

  • kris

    PR is a problem. Unfortunately too many people on here don’t see it. I’ve been saying since game one we need a new qb. I could care less about completion percentage for a million 4 yard gainers. I care about wins and making people around him better. He does not produce, period. He can no longer make the difficult and accurate throws needed to be an elite qb. He’s just mediocre like our team and record. Until we draft out new qb we will get the same results mark my words.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Coaches and GM’s make the roster. When Keenan Allen is your #1 receiver, and Tutu (who had 2 HUGE clutch catches), and Ladarius Green are constantly sidelined… is it really Rivers job to make Brown better? God knows he has put the ball on the money for that fool a bunch. He just doesn’t know where he is supposed to be, or catch them when he is. Who has been good & healthy since AJ let Jackson walk? Your answer? Nobody.

      • Sergio Quintero

        The chargers better study the Patriots 2 TE’s offense, and start getting Royal in there instead of VB, he just isn’t doing anything to stay on the field.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          They did it on the last drive, and Green made a great catch. Too bad it took them until we were practically out of reach of winning the game before they did it.

          • arnie

            Peter that’s what i question about Whiz, what you just said right there. That play is not the only play Green has made, but as a coach you have to go with your “instincts” and recognize ” This Green guy is making plays for us. let’s see what else he can do.” type of discussion that takes place in a coaches head. Whether it be on the field or in film.

    • Joe Bolt

      ok, genius. And you think drafting a “new” QB automatically solves all this team’s problems? Good luck with that.

      • kris

        Hey Joe, if you don’t have anything constructive to say, refrain from posing comments. Again you guys come up with a million excuses for Rivers. Its his line, it’s his receivers, its the play calling. You cant say he’s elite one year because he threw like a baller to Tutu, Crayton, and Legedue, then the next year say its because he has no receivers? I get there other problems leading to our losses not ONLY Rivers. But, I see the decline in him and Im not interested in riding it out another 2-3 years. We either start really rebuilding so we can be awesome in a few years or keep half assing it and get the same results. Good drafts and getting real name free agents is going to be key.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Kinda hard to be an elite QB, and put winning drives together when you get sacked 3 times in the final quarter… and one of them is with less than a minute to go… yet, he still almost managed to do it, didn’t he?

          • kris

            So again, its the lines fault?

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            This article is about the Miami game. Getting sacked 3 times in the last quarter pretty much kills all momentum, or scoring efforts. The line gets slack because it’s patchwork. However, if you are trying to go into every game played this season, last season, and since Rivers has been here, I don’t have that kind of time. My apologies. Not trying to be rude, but we could go tit-for-tat all day, and neither one of us would change the other’s mind. Perhaps on an article where Philip River’s future with the team is the topic.

          • Sergio Quintero

            Fluker has had a great season but he’s not a LT, this line takes major steps back when Dunlap doesn’t play, unfortunately they can’t trust him for next season.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            It’s too bad. He would have been a steal!

          • boltingindiego

            any reasons why dunlap seems to be getting these concussions minus the one where he was kneed in the ahead by i think the jags?.

          • kris

            No problem. No rudeness felt. I love my Bolts like you do. These convos are all just our opinions. I appreciate your articles and hopefully by seasons end will have you on the “Lets draft Bridgewater!” train ;)

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            Thanks for being cool about it. I really enjoy discussing stuff with folks on here. That Rivers convo tends to be endless, though. Lol… I can appreciate both sides of the fence on that one. Thanks for reading.

    • arnie

      You did see him hit VBrown squarely in the hands, while covered in the end zone? VBrown dropped it. It’s not about what I want to hear. What i do question is, can you put aside your biased long enough to acknowlegde the truth? You are wrong and have been about Rivers since day one. He has completed passes, and gotten the ball out, all without his # 1 an 2 WR to start the season. The only time he seems to get picks is when someone runs the wrong route. The only guys, Tutu an Green, that can stretch the field are on the sideline.
      He is the only reason, AGAIN, this team has any chance of winning.
      Doing it all this, behind a make shift O-line, every game? I will mark your words, this team is mediocre, only because Rivers is on it, NOT because OF him.

  • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

    People are testy today. The Te’O post was crazy. I just want to make it clear that I don’t give a crap. Go read whatever blog you like. Don’t do me any favors by “not” reading my garbage, and commenting that this is why you don’t. .. but you just did. If you got some big secret, why dont you write something? Always looking for staff writers. I want to thank E-Pad for waking up day in, and day out to do this. I appreciate it. I really do. This IS a great group of people. Recognize!!!!

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      Thanks bro. Appreciate that

  • ECAVILLE/Ace of Spades

    I am no football genius but I do recognize growing pains from a newly built team who is struggling to overcome adversity. Disappointed in this team big time. It’s the not being able to finish drives with touchdowns that is doing this team in. Pressure is a tough thing to handle. Philip Rivers is having a hard time figuring out how to successfully call a audible that works in the red zone. Coaches need to find a solution with PR and make a run to win out the rest of this schedule.

  • arnie

    Peter it was about execution that killed them this week, that can be cleaned up. The problem I have is trying to fit a square peg in a round hole. That’s what the play calling feels like in the redzone. It’s tough to score, getting some momentum and building your players confidence is crucial. So instead of sticking with what works, and letting the defense stop you, they seem to sacrifice all that for the sake of “balance” an “sticking with the game plan” at all costs.
    To me Green is the answer to stretching the field in the passing game. I would have Gates an Green in all day. He is that guy that can fill the void DX an Floyd left. Let VBrown go back to slot, behind Royal, Green is a better option at Wideout anyway. He gives this team back the “BIG PLAY” dynamic the Chargers have been missing. If they want Gates open in the redzone, they have to give defenses something else to worry about.

    • Sergio Quintero

      This offense would be so much better if Floyd had stayed healthy and Dunlap would stay on the field, but that is whole lot of ifs.

      • arnie

        AGREED. Sergio you and i have been in this rodeo long enough to know where i stand on that. That’s what i like about McCoy, he’s coached a Next Man Up team that isn’t a cliche. not having 10 starters on game one, and yet this team still manages to be competitive.

  • Ioane

    This team has some holes and really has no hope even if we make the playoffs.

    After losing to Miami I am now hoping the Chargers lose the rest of the way so that we have a shot at landing a very high pick.

    I know it’s not what a die hard fans would want but it’s what this team needs.

    Clowney, Barr or Nix is what we need with the 1st round pick.

    • Sergio Quintero

      Can’t say any better, there is a massive need for at least one major playmaker on defense, I would say 2, get a top 10 defensive player preferably a pass rusher (Barr or Mack), and a veteran star corner (Aqib Talib).

      • boltingindiego

        would love to get barr but my only concern is the price tag of talib and his injury history.

        • Sergio Quintero

          They need a major infusion of talent in the secondary if not Talib name another and he’s most likely an upgrade.

  • boltingindiego

    the patch work o-line to me ran out of gas in the 4th. gave up like 3 sacks, and on 3 run plays 1 in the red zone and 2 on the next drive gained only 1 yard combined. The one time our defense causes a turnover in the red zone we negate that with a penalty.

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