Nov 10, 2013; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers head coach Mike McCoy yells at referees during the second half against the Denver Broncos at Qualcomm Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Robert Hanashiro-USA TODAY Sports

I Am Starting To Wonder…


With all of the frustration that has been expressed recently (mainly because of Mike McCoy & his coaching staff’s stubborn approach to managing games), I got to asking myself a question. “What am I seeing, that Mike McCoy & the coaching staff isn’t”?

This is a question that could be answered easily, or it could be extremely complex. As outsiders, it isn’t hard to point at something, and say “SEE… that is what I am talking about! They should have done THIS”!!! After watching the decisions being made lately, it is hard to argue that fans, announcers, experts, bloggers, writers… you name it… are all incorrect by pointing out key mistakes. But, there are also a lot of things on the sideline that we don’t see. Are they hiding a players nagging injury, and we can’t tell? Has the player been put in a situation endlessly during practice, and failed miserably every time? Is the player being punished for a bad attitude, or for being lazy behind the scenes? Did the player have sex with the owner’s wife, and piss on his car when he left the house? There could be any number of reasons for why things happen, that are hidden from our eyes. They could even be hidden from the media, or the players themselves. Is it possible that we are missing something?

On game day, I keep catching myself thinking “This is exactly what Norv would have done! I thought we were past this”! As fans, we have watched McCoy’s predecessor screw the pooch over, and over again. He used the same tired plays, the same predictable logic, and looked (in my best Norv Turner voice) “awfully bad” game, after game. It was so bad in the end, that we gave the situation its own name… we openly hollered out “We got Norv’d”! When this term was employed, it never meant anything good. It was a linked with other catch phrases like “doing the same thing over & over, but expecting different results”. It meant “the definition of insanity”. My question is “Does Mike McCoy see what we see”? Does he realize (despite the amazing job he has done getting Philip Rivers & the offense back on track) that his play calling looks similar to Norv Turner’s, at times?

I would assume that when you take a job, you look at what the last guy got fired for, and avoid that mentality like the plague. Has Mike McCoy done that? Did he go into the film room, watch what cost this team so many games over the last umpteen seasons, and say “THAT is what needs to change”. Or did he say, “Those were the right calls, but the players just didn’t execute”? The thought crossed my mind that he doesn’t know that he is doing the same things that we have been tortured with for so long. WE know what the patterns of this team were, and aren’t willing to stomach another minute of it. Is McCoy aware of this? He is the head coach, so I would hope that he was briefed, and that this is just a coincidence. However, I wonder if he realizes that he has infinite reels of film available that show that these decisions have proven this conservative play calling wrong, beyond any shadow of a doubt?

When Mike McCoy was hired, he was immediately brought in from a team that just got knocked out of the playoffs. From his hire, to the regular season kick off, things developed at light speed. I’m not making excuses for him, but he had to implement new game plans, sign off on coaches, give input on which players stay & go, deal with major offseason injuries, and a whole lot of other things. He should definitely have a better idea than I do about when to go for it on 4th & 1, and when to go for a field goal. But, I often wonder what it feels like to have so much pressure on you to get things fixed in such a short amount of time.

Even though he gets paid millions of dollars, has he had enough time to soak up this awful situation that Norv & AJ left behind, and fix all of the problems that they had YEARS to create? Maybe… maybe not. But, I know one thing. No matter what happens this season, he should use his offseason time to take a look at what everyone is talking about, and watch some film from years past. Or, he will just become another name on the list of disappointing Chargers coaches.

Keep Bolting Toward Excellence

Peter Thompson

 

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  • diomar espinal

    i will agree that MM has made some bone head calls through out the season. But at the same time im going to point out something that doesnt get mentioned much when talking about play calling. MM installed a Peyton like offense. AKA the coaching staff calls the plays but Phillip now has the freedom to call whatever he wants at the Line of scrimmage. And i think thats what is falsely being blamed on MM about calling similar plays over and over. IT isnt him who is doing it, its PHILLIP.

    • Aaron Johnson

      I like your point and it speaks to McCoy as a coach. He said before pre-season that if one person makes a bad call they have all made it. He is putting his neck on every decision even if it wasnt him who gave the final go-ahead. That is a good coach in terms of keeping the team mentality alive. They win and lose as a team not as individuals.

    • Calman21

      One point that should be added to that. Phillip can only play with the personnel package that are given to him. So, if Whisenhunt or MM only given him Woodhead and no FB then his options are extremely limited.

    • John Alton

      And how do you know that? Are you in the huddle? Do you have privileged access to the teams locker room/coaching staff? Oh, I get it, you making an assumption. Right on, post thing based on no facts, just the garbage swirlling around in your head.

      • diomar espinal

        idk smart ass maybe if you watched closely and understood our new offensive scheme youd realize that. Before every snap Phillip reads what the defense is giving him and thus makes his playcall similar to how Peyton Manning does. On the 2nd down play from the 1 yard line vs the Redskins the playcall was clearly POWER O thus ryan Matthews and McClain being on the field. It was PR who at the last second gave Gates the heads up to throw the fade route which pretty much cost us the game. Now to respond to the posters. you guys are absolutely right, PR can only work with the personnel which he is given and the blame should deff be placed on the coaching staff for having Woody on the field for short yardage situations. That being said I pointed out PR’s bonehead audible call because sadly Phillip just always seems to fuck up in crunchtime. One way or another he just always has these mental lapses that costs us games . This year hes been much better and has actually gave me a glimmer of hope that he can be clutch the way he drove up the field vs the skins. Hopefully he keeps that up.

    • Stefanie Smith

      Rivers cannot substitute in different players to set up a new play. His freedom is limited.

  • kris

    Good article. I find myself wondering the same thing. I would like a transparent coach. If a players injured, coach uses wrong play calling, players aren’t executing, I would like to know the truth. I’m tired of hearing the same thing over and over again. “We’ll learn from this,” seems to be the new phrase with Mccoy. I demand more of an answer. Whats really going on? Why is it we have talent, but seemingly little heart?Why is it we have so many injuries? Why is it we choke so often in close games? Until I see a REAL difference from GM down, (concerning transparency) I come to expect to see the same results. A mediocre team that does just enough to get some fans to believe we have a chance.

    • Aaron Johnson

      I disagree in that I think we have mostly heart and only a few really talented players.

    • Peter Thompson

      Thanks for the props, mang!

  • Bill Nichols

    One major thing that has changed is our GM. I think Telesco will not hesitate to fire anyone’s ass who does not produce. I would imagine that the coaching staff is on a short leash, and Pagano’s is the shortest. I really have been making myself give this coaching staff the benefit of the doubt, as of course, they were left in a poor way, and still expected to win on a regular basis. I feel you brother, and for sure, feel as frustrated, if not more, with the play calling / outcome of exactly 4 of the 5 loses. The Raider game was just BS, and think we were set up by the damn league (Screw the A’s, they sucked anyway). On another note, the damn injuries are getting to be comical (not really, but, it’s either laugh, or cry). I swear, we have had way more than our share of critical players receiving major injuries. Is it the conditioning of our players? Or is it just shit luck, or what? Things have to change, pretty sure we have hit bottom. One thing I am very pleased with is the play of Rivers, and shutting peoples mouths concerning his abilities. Hell, even Mathews has turned the corner. I am really loving me some power running by Ryan, dude is a stud. Here’s to winning out the season. Bolt Up!!

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Great comments Bill.. I think it’s just shit luck. It’s a physical game, and people are getting hurt. I think when one or two guys go down (especially in the trenches), it puts pressure on the other guys to overextend themselves, and take on more responsibility. Or, the communication could be a problem when you have rookies & backups coming in the game. For example, if the guy next to you is getting driven back, you might get your foot stepped on, or ankle twisted when a defensive player crashes through the line. Or, when you are forced to jump over, and help with that guy’s assignment, while still doing your own. Just a theory. As for the OLB woes… I agree that it has become comical. What a string of bad luck! First Ingram, then Freeney, then double J pulled a hammy, then English gets put on IR… now we are rolling with Tourek, Keiser, and some random dude? Thank God for Johnson is all I can say. He MUST stay healthy!

  • Aaron Johnson

    You are a fan and that is where the frustration comes from. WE want to think a team is better than it is. McCoys job is to get this team to perform better than it is and he has done that. You have to cut a 1st year head coach some slack and, in my opinion, give a coach 3 full drafts before passing judgement. This year has had ups and downs but we really havent been out of any games. Give our players and our staff more time and you will see us finishing the games we are dropping. It takes time and it takes those first year mistakes. McCoy wasnt the coach we hired for a Superbowl this year, we hired him to build a dynasty. No team succeeds instantly. The Chiefs hired read because they felt he had the talent to win now. No one could argue with me and say we had superbowl talent coming into this season. At a few positions sure, but overall we are middle of the road maybe slightly better BECAUSE of McCoy. Just my 2 cents though.

    Its fun to be a fan that understands the game but lets be honest, we arent coaching in the NFL for a reason.

    • kris

      “McCoys job is to get this team to perform better than it is and he has done that.”
      We were 4-5 this time last year. How has he gotten us to perform better? I dont care about stats. I care about wins, we are in the exact same situation in that column as with NORV last year!

      • Tazzster

        But its a totally different 4-5. Last year was a struggle to win 4.

        This year we won 4, lost 2 and gave 3 games away.

        Like oranges and apples, dude.

        • Peter Thompson

          What’s funny its we didn’t struggle in the first four wins last season. We beat the Raiders out of the gate, torched the Chiefsttwice, and destroyed the Titans. But, I get your point. It was the 3 & 4 gamelosing streaks in between, with moments of bi-polar brilliance (Steelers / Jets) that kept you guessing. One week you hand a team their ass, the next you can’t beat Cleveland with 10 pointsor get shelled by Atlanta or Carolina. Up and down all season. WhichIis whereI think people get the “at least we are Iin close games” reassuring feeling from. It has evened out. But, I also think we are losingwinnable games, where the wrongcall was OOBVIOUSLY made.I have no Iillusions that this team is SuperBowl bound. But, when the meat Iis on the table..TAKE IT! Even a dog does that. TThat’s wheremy frustrationslie.

          • Tazzster

            I know what we are all getting at… its those 3 we gave away.

            So lets look at those….

            Texans – 2nd half meltdown. There are a lot of things here. Bad ref call that give Houston 4 points. Bad offensive play calling. Eddie Royal drops a wide open pass for a first down late in the game. Team meltdown. You can’t blame McCoy for all of this…. He can’t catch Eddie Royal’s pass, but he needs to have his team ready. If we had gotten one more play we would have won this game and it would not be on the list.

            Titans – Two things here. Going conservative on the final drive. McCoy did not put the ball into River’s hands to win the game. He put it in Jake Locker’s. Rookie Coach mistake. Second, giving up the 34 yard pass with 22 seconds left. Unexcusable! Granted the receiver got away with a push but where is the safety? 10 yards too late. Poor safety play? Poor defensive call. Either way, its a loss. Players have to make plays… the safety should have been there.

            Washington – RUN THE FREAKING BALL! This is on McCoy for trusting Whisenhunt. Hopefully this will not be a problem again…. I think we saw that it was rectified last game.

            And so you are right…. A lot of McCoy mistakes in there. (or coaching staff mistakes) But you have to give them some leeway to learn from those. The reason for bringing in a younger coach is that he turns into a solid coach that is here for a long time and builds a dynasty in San Diego.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            I think we both agree here. I too am going to give him some leeway to fix it.

            The point of my article was that maybe watching Norv make similar mistakes on film might open his eyes to NOT making those play calls to begin with, rather than unnecessarily learning the lessons on the job. I think it would save him some heartache, and give him an idea of the frustration the SD media, and fans are directing towards these calls. If he hasn’t done this, he probably doesn’t understand why we are so quick to jump on him for it, and is getting defensive.

            In my opinion, it could bring him closer to the fan base, and endear him to them in the process. I hope he isn’t SO hard headed, that he has an “I’m not going to look at what the guy before me did.. he’s gone.. I’m here now… I’m going to do it my way” attitude that seems to come across in his press conferences. He might just look at the Norv film, and say “Ahhhhh… now I get it… Norv already made that mistake a hundred times in a row.. that’s why they are so upset.. even though it’s the first time I did it”. You would think that Dean or John might pull him aside, and explain this to Tom, Ken, and Mike… maybe even Pagano could shed light on it for them. Maybe they already have? But, I don’t count on those three to do anything quite that intelligent, or this team would not have eroded the way it has.

          • Tazzster

            I don’t think you can judge McCoy’s character or personality from his press conferences.

            To me its clear that McCoy has at least 2 rules for press conferences….

            1. He is not going to throw anyone under the bus. For example look at the Washington debacle, McCoy constantly said that they are a team and it is the teams decision and the team takes the responsibility for everything including the play calls. Now I am guessing in the back of his mind he was thinking, “I am gonna kick Whisenhunt’s ass on Monday.” But you can’t say those things at a press conference. And by his rule he was not going to throw Ken under the bus.
            2. He is only going to give the press as much info as is required. If he knows a Player is not playing on Sunday, he will tell you, “We are evaluating his progress”. If he has a problem with the offensive coordinator, he will tell you, “We need to get better as a team.”

            I am assuming that this is just for the press and that McCoy is a different guy in the locker room or when he is in his office chewing out Whisenhunt.

            He will get better. He has a drive to win.

          • Stefanie Smith

            And that Raider game. That was totally embarrassing. We should have been better prepared and won.

          • Tazzster

            I left out the Raider game because that was a total team meltdown. You can’t blame it all on McCoy. Unless you embrace the atitude that everything is his fault because he is the head coach.

  • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    Could the problem be Whizenhunt? Being in a way demoted back to a OC and working under a rookie head coach maybe he’s strong arming MM into letting him do what ever he wants. I can’t say it’s PR because the audibles seem to really work and help but could it be the original calls being sent in from Whiz are holding us back? I know on the goal line play we blew against Wash. PR said he only changed the first play which was a run then Whizzel calls for back to back passes, 1 in which just failed against the Jags the previous week……I could be waaaaaay off but who knows.

    • Peter Thompson

      I thought the same thing. The “Get outta here kid.. I’ll show you how it’s done” mentality. In which case, McCoy should have had enough heat by now to tell Whisenhunt “We tried it your way… Now let’s do it my way”. Same with Pagano. If they give him grief over it, SEE YA! We all have Mike’s back on that one… so should TT. No time for Prima Donnas.. players OR coaches. I really thought McCoy had balls.So far, either he agrees with this crap, or he is backing down & flailing in his pressers. Neither is good. You can say it’s his first year.. but, personally. .. I don’t take shit from anyone. Even if it’s from a bigger dog. Especially when I’m in charge… which I usually am.. so is Mikey. HANDLE! I’m not buying this “he’s like Fox stuff”. He is just overwhelmed. I get it. Now puff your chest up Big Dog!!!! Tell these fools to kick rocks…or they csn steal some other teams money.

  • Derek

    I see a lot of comments that don’t make sense. A transparent coach!! So pretty much u want McCoy to tell defenses to attack here and btw 3/4 of our line has a leg injury so don’t worry about a run play just go for rivers all 4 quarters. Face it we will never know the whole story behind the calls that’s between them. I credit McCoy for keeping chargers contenders in every game. For making us a possible playoff contender when norv left saying this team has a loooong way to go. I didn’t like that he kicked a fg sometimes but really! Ur grumbling after we had a coach who went for games where we didn’t reach the redzone!! McCoy is not jim harbough the chargers didn’t suck as bad to give him the draft picks to be compared to him. For those who are dissapointed in McCoy point to a first yr coach doing better…..

  • Tazzster

    TOO EARLY.

    McCoy is a rookie head coach. Sure he has made mistakes. The real test comes next year… If mistakes continue to happen then we may have a problem. But I think he is learning.

    For example in the Denver game when we had the ball at the 1 yard line. We went power and scored. So what happened between that game and the Washington game. I don’t know for sure but I think McCoy and Whisenhunt had a little sit down where McCoy said, “Get cute on the 1 yard line again and I am gonna cut you brother!” or something like that.

    The result…. Whisenhunt heard the message and he did not get cute.

    Overall, the offense has performed well. The one glaring issue is the redzone. Hire a Red Zone consultant or something. Just fix the problem.

    On the other side the defense has at times looked great and at times looked foolish. There is no doubt we are lacking talent on that side of the ball. I think Pags is a fine coach. At least give him a year with some more talent on the field and see what he can do.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      I really like that they finally let Mathews run it in on that play.. don’t get me wrong. But, what happened to giving the ball to him (or even Brown or McClain) on the eight yard line on 4th & 1? It seems like they may have come to an agreement that the ball should be pounded in on the inch yard line.. but, that should be obvious. Why did they hesitate on the other red zone play, and kick a field goal instead? Is the problem really fixed… or, have they just changed their mind about going for it when you have a fresh set of downs, and it should be an easy play? I’ll take any improvement, but I would like to see across the board changes of how they are using Mathews, and managing their red zone possessions.

      • Tazzster

        4th and 1 on the 8 yard line early in the game…. I would kick the field goal.

        If you turn it over on downs and then lose by 2 points, it would look even worse.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Amy other team, I would agree. Not against a QB who is on pace for 60+ TD’s, is 8 TD’s ahead of Drew “I score 3 TD’s a game” Brees, and is averaging 42.2 points a game, and we have the worst pass defense in the league. It makes no sense.

          • Tazzster

            No. It sends a message to your defense saying, “we don’t trust you to do your job”

            You can not panic in the 1st quarter….

            And the Chargers executed a great game plan, they owned time of possession and kept Peyton off the field. They moved the ball on Denver. Of course they forgot to finish their drives with touchdowns. Now you may say, “That’s exactly what I am talking about.” I will disagree, because of the timing in the game.

            For example if you were saying that we should have gone for it at the end of the second quarter when it was 4 and 11 at the 19 and we were down 14-6. I would be more inclined to be on board with you. The first reason, being I don’t want to give the ball back to Manning, second being that I know the Broncos get the ball back at half.

            But, but, but ITS 11 YARDS! …. I would still be more inclined to go for it there.

            That drive was the real turning point of the game… We NEEDED that 3 and 6 play! If we can convert there, Peyton does not get the ball back before the half. Take 7 points off the board for the Broncos. If we score a touchdown put 7 on for us…BIG difference maker

  • Peter Thompson

    I’m actually not that frustrated. No more than the next fan, anyway. I’m just looking for clues at the scene of the crime – Pete

    • tubbs45

      Detective Pete Thomas on the mother fucker… Back people nothing to see here!

  • Blue&gold_blood

    I just want the play calling to be a little different . Enough of the draw run out of the shotgun position . Has it even worked out once for us? I want Chargers to run the ball but in different positions, calls, etc. another thing I want them to start taking deep shots down the field . Go for big plays . All the short passes and check downs gets annoying, and they should use Mathews and Woodhead 50/50.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      That one to Woodhead over the top was EXCELLENT! Even the one to Brown against Denver this weekend was awesome… had Brown not dropped it.

  • Blue&gold_blood

    Pete that sex comment with the wife was funny lol

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Tee Hee.

  • John Alton

    Has anybody really stopped and taken a good hard look at this team? This is not a playoff team. McCoy is a rookie head coach. Most of you have given him 1-2 years to win a super bowl or its fire him. He needs better players….The talent on this team has to be re stocked. After what AJ did to this team its going to take at least 2 more drafts to get this team to where it needs to be. Its going to take 3-4 years to become a serious conteneder.

    • Stuart Adkins

      I’m calling it now: 2015 SB Champs…anybody agree?

      • Stuart Adkins

        Let me correct that to 2014. After a great draft next spring. Go back and look at Chargerrs 2005 and how much it resembles THIS season, and then we all remember 2006′s 14-2 season following that. so…

        • John Alton

          No it does not. They were developing young, talented players. That team was the product of several good drafts. AJ depleted the team with his horrible drafts. Telesco needs at least 2 more drafts to get this team where it needs to be. The Bolts have NO DEPTH. Thats the difference between now and the 05 team. There is no comparing the two teams. I would look for 2016-17?

          • 1961 Fan

            John, try convincing the other dreamers on this board, most are wishful thinkers at best. Keep posting the truth, perhaps it will get through to some of them.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            I think there are plenty of boards out there full of people that are serious, somber, and not “wishful thinking”. Can’t the dreamers have ONE site where they can be positive, without a bunch of curmudgeons constantly pissing in there Cheerios? I swear… you would think it was illegal to have a positive outlook on any aspect of the team, just because they aren’t bringing home a trophy this year.

    • chargersfanfromswitzerland

      I absolutly agree, this is from the talent standpoint not a playoff team, and a record of 4-5 is what we could have expected. McCoy is a rookie HC and we should give him a little time to build a good team and to learn from mistakes. Regardless, it really sucks soooo much to lose games because of bad playcalling…we are definitly tires of that, it has to stop…

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        Take the playoffs out of the equation for a minute. Even if you had no expectations of going to the playoffs this year… didn’t you want to see this team win games that were very winnable, against opponents that they were expected to beat? Not giving your power running back the ball on the goal line in multiple games doesn’t have anything to do with talent or being a first year coach. Neither does kicking a field goal on 4th & 1 at the 8 yard line against a team that you can’t stop from scoring. That is more about coaching philosophy. I really don’t like that conservative philosophy. Norv coached that way, and we all hated it. I’m not sure if that just “goes away” after you get more talent, and another year under your belt.

        • chargersfanfromswitzerland

          i absolutly agree on almost everthing you said, but iam not sure if he wont change the conservative playcalling after all the critics and bad outcome! guess he knows know that it didnt work, at least i hope so… it SUCKS the way we lost games this season, when he continous with the conservative play calling after all, then i am completly on your side and say he`s not the right guy. just not ready to give up on him yet!

          • chargersfanfromswitzerland

            *knows now ;) sorry for the bad spelling, i actually speak swiss german!! go chargers

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            Personally, I think he is the right guy. I’m not saying he should be fired, whatsoever. That would be overreacting, to say the least. Perhaps his philosophy WILL change. I am going to give him plenty of chances. I just think he could benefit from watching some old tape of Norv doing similar things, rather than learn it the hard way on his own. That is what I was getting at in the article.
            Either way, thanks for debating it with me. I thought this thread would get two or three comments, at best. Maybe even some “This article sucks” comments… hahaha. I guess people had more to say than I thought.

    • OP Bolt

      I think you are speaking truth to power. I think McCoy’s (seeming) inconsistency has less to do with his understanding the importance of possible momentum shifts, than his evaluation of the speed and power, or lack thereof, on the offensive side of the equation and a lot to do with his concern about his, at times, abysmal defense. I think it will take at least one more super draft/FA period, maybe two. The sad part is that probably by the second, we will need to be talking abut the follow-on QB.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      John… I don’t think many people were under the illusion that this team was going to the Super Bowl. I certainly didn’t, anyway. But, one of the things we DID want to see this season is a coach who is willing to take SOME kind of risk, that led to winning close games. Agreed that McCoy is a rookie coach, and I am not calling for his head, by any means. This team is definitely not overloaded with talented players, either. But, are you telling me that after what we have seen from Ryan Mathews this season, that he shouldn’t get ONE single shot at a 4th and 1 on the goal line to win the game? Or, in numerous other situations this season? Or, that McCoy & Whisenhunt aren’t experienced enough to know that yet, because it’s their first year together? That makes no sense to me, and that is what fans are upset about. It has nothing to do with talent level, or coaching experience.. which Whisenhunt has plenty of, anyway. It has to do with putting your foot on another team’s throat, and winning games you should win… regardless of your playoff chances.

      • Stefanie Smith

        I so agree. All we are asking is to play some decent football and don’t make fools out of themselves.. You are making a fool out of yourself when our coaching and the “odd” playcalling is the talk of the NFL. Just play good football and win the games they really should be winning.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          You are exactly right Stefanie! I have heard the announcers scratching their heads about a bunch of play calling this season.
          We all get it folks, we aren’t delusional…. It would literally be a miracle if this team went to the Super Bowl, or even sniffed the playoffs, with the roster we have. But, when you are gifted with a QB who is playing as well as Rivers is, who can overcome this team’s deficiencies on defense… and all you have to do is NOT screw up no-brainer play calls to win games… DON’T SCREW IT UP! There is an old saying.. “Fake it, until you make it”. We may not be a great team now, with a legendary head coach. But, don’t go out of your way to prove it.

  • Michael

    I always wondered if you could hipnotize the entire team in thinking that they are the most tallented team on the field, at all the positions, right before the game, do you think it would work?

    • Michael

      Sorry, I’m trying to go out of the box here,,,,,

      • Stuart Adkins

        Hahaha–you don’t think anyone’s tried that yet? Hypnotists would be making $20M a year. Fun idea tho…

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Best cpmment right here. Like!!!

  • boltup

    McCoy is doing fine we were expected to win 4 to 5 games calm down people were 1 game down the wildcard not 3

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Expected is one thing… but when you are suddenly in a position to take it by the throat, and you don’t. . Then you are stupid. If 4-5 wins was the expectation, then there is no risk whatsoecer in trying to go for it.

      • boltup

        Its hard to win games in the nfl especially when your a rookie coach

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Agreed. That’s why I’m wondering if he has even looked at what the guy before him failed at. It could do wonders.

  • arnie

    Here’s what i wonder Peter. How can you stand, in a press conference, and tell people, ” We need to do better in the redzone…we have to score more touch downs…” and when you had the chance, you kicked field goals in a games you just lost?
    You can’t have it both ways. You can’t talk about what you need to do, and then don’t do it. Ryan Mathews got his second rushing TD for the season, most importantly, he got when the “HAD TO HAVE ONE”. Don’t gimme that woulda’ coulda’ should’, baloney. RM24 should have gotten the ball in washington, You now it Pete. I know it. McCoy knows it. He should have been feed the ball against denver.
    I hear what your saying, but consider this, are there to many chefs in the kitchen? “Lemme esplain Lucy…”
    McCoy is on record, that Rivers was allowed to keep plays that he liked, for him an Gates. McCoy also has had some “input” on plays, but they are running Whiz system which is run heavy, ( believe it or not) and short passes. It’s how he got that ring in Pittsburg. Those are three different offensive philosophies, trying to co-exist in the playbook. Have you ever wondered WHY the Chargers get something going, and then it looks like they switch to something completely different? there are three different OC/ HC running the offense, one is McCoy, two is Whiz, the other is in Rivers head.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      It cant let it happen, or stand there and say that Arnie. We are both right…. And I am sad that despite a chance that has been essentially gifted to them right now, based on the team they are working with, that they are begging on their hind legs, instead of stealing the bacon.

      • arnie

        You get no argument from me. Remember what I said before the start of the season? I’m glad norv is gone, I’m going to cut McCoy the same slack I gave norv, in his first year. The differences between to the coaches in there first seasons, is far an wide, but that doesn’t excuse them from criticism.
        Now that we’re 9 games in, I got some film to look at and can see what we’re working with. So, It’s perfectly logical to stand up and ask a reasonable question, ” What’s going on?” If the pundits can see it, the experts in the booth can see it, and we can see it, it’s perfectly okay to admit you were wrong an make changes. After all isn’t that what “film study” is for? To “second guess” what you did on game day?

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      P.S. that would make a great article.

  • tubbs45

    While I will reserve the right to complain, I have hold my assessment until TT and McCoy have 3 full drafts / seasons. Coordinator can come and go. I will admit I was hope the panthers would suck so we could have Rivera back.

    I am extremely happy with Fluker and Allen. I am hoping Te’o pans out. Our new contacts seem to be better team deals than the AJ ‘last ditch effort’ contracts (spanos should have had that one under better control).

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  • joerockt

    Let Rivers run the damn offense. When they no huddle and let him read the D, they play well. He never would have called those plays on the Skins 10″ line. Let the player be the tactician, let the coaches worry about the strategy. Situational awareness needs to change.

  • 1961 Fan

    John Alton posted the best comments X 2; try reading his posts to fully understand what is the condition of the Chargers for the 2013 season.

    • arnie

      We get it, and it’s not about playoff, or Superbowl frustrations. John did great job in pointing out what we already know. The context of the article is about, ” are we seeing from McCoy a fluke, or can we expect more of the same”? At some point it’s reasonable to expect a HC to look at film and make changes. So far it sounds like keep, the blinders on, that’s starting took like a pattern instead of a learning curve.
      So like me, Peter is starting to wonder if this IS the real McCoy?

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        I love how the minute that you start asking legitimate questions, you are immediately labeled as some heart-sick teenager who wants to fire McCoy because he isn’t taking us to the SuprBowl in his first year. Or, that you are delusional, and think that the Chargers have the best roster in the NFL, and that you don’t have a brain in your head. I have been watching this team for three decades, not three seasons. Some people are so condescending, and think that nobody sees what is really going on, except for them, and pat themselves on the back when the obvious happens. I don’t get the mentality. It’s like all of the “Rivers is done” people. Suddenly, nowhere to be found.

  • Boltfan

    One thing I’d like to point out is how do we know what questionable calls are McCoy’s as opposed to Whisenhunt’s? I understand the HC is ultimately responsible, but I can’t agree its,”pile on McCoy” time. I think the more blatant area is our lack of depth on this team due to the last regime. This is an average team right now and it showed against Denver. Give Telesco another couple of offseason sand I think we’ll be very competitive.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      I agree, and have all the faith in world in Tom Telesco. But, are Whisenhunt or McCoy still going to kick a field goal on 4th & 1 on the eight yard line, like they did against Denver? We have a talented running back now. That is the question.

      • NativeSanDiegan

        Aloha Peter
        I have a brief reply that will probably get me reamed except I’m replying late and you’re probably the only one who will this.
        DRAFT POSITION so you don’t have to give away a potentially great pick to move up those few picks to get your guy. Upon his hiring and repeated numerous times TT told us that he’s here to win the Super Bowl.
        Not to discount our grief over terrible play calling nor over so many players on IR that seemingly don’t have season-ending injuries (a clever way to stockpile young players with good potential) to build our our depth.
        Okay, now everyone can nail me to the cross. Of course this is simply one man’s opinion on a common practice that is NEVER brought up and discussed.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Nah… you cool. I was not a fan of the move up to get Te’O. Not only did I think he would still be there when we picked, but if he wasn’t, there were still other MLB’s on the board. Two of which are doing pretty darn well right now. Imagine who we could have drafted with that 4th pick, seeing the success TT had with the rest of the guys. In fact, I can’t name one guy that I thought wasn’t a good player. Te’O might be the only one I think didn’t live up to expectations.. but, there is still time for him to shine, and he hasn’t been totally horrible..

          • NativeSanDiegan

            So true. Personally I liked Brown from K-State the best at that time but I hadn’t actually seen him play. The one player I’d been watching in draft was Barret Jones of ‘bama. Played very effectively at center, guard, and even tackle. Called blocks as a center on a pretty good line. Played through injuries. Didn’t get many pancakesbut seemed to never miss a block, even on 2nd & 3rd level and held up pass blocking along the entire o-line and held the link together. At very least would be versat

  • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

    Is Kevin Acee’s wife Vannacee on Twitter?