October 6, 2013; Oakland, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers wide receiver Vincent Brown (86) catches a 51-yard pass against the Oakland Raiders during the third quarter at O.co Coliseum. The Raiders defeated the Chargers 27-17. Mandatory Credit: Kyle Terada-USA TODAY Sports

Does Vincent Brown Fit The Chargers Offensive Scheme?

With the San Diego Chargers new scheme on offense, does Vincent Brown fit as part of the plan? Vincent Brown looked like he was going to be a solid player under Norv Turner, but with Ken Whisenhunt he has not been able to break out like we had been hoping. On the season, he has 265 yards on 26 receptions and a touchdown. That is 64 yards less than Calvin Johnson had on Sunday.

Keenan Allen and Eddie Royal have shined in Whisenhunt’s offense, while Brown has not had the type of production that we would have hoped. I wonder if he is the type of receiver that the Chargers are looking for?

Brown isn’t a player that picks up a lot of yards after the catch, while Allen and Royal are. Brown has averaged 2 yards after the catch this season, while Allen has averaged 5.5 yards after the catch and Royal has averaged 6.7 yards after the catch. Antonio Gates is a 5.9 yards and Danny Woodhead is at 6.8 yards.

It seems that the offense is better off with receivers that can make things happen after the catch. Brown just does not have the moves in the open field to pick up those extra yards. With the team looking to get the ball out of Philip’s hand quickly, the Chargers seem to be in a better position to have a receiver that can make things happen after the catch. As much as I loved Vincent Brown, he just doesn’t seem to be a fit.

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  • Jordan Denning

    I think he is still an important threat to have on the team. He is the guy that can open up the field for Allen and Gates. He may not be putting up a ton of numbers, but he still contributes

  • Calman21

    Brown has his place. All the receivers in this offense seem to pay a role and that leads teams to have to pick their poison. I wouldn’t be surprised for teams to start pressuring Allen more as the season progresses opening up Brown for more receptions.

    • Stefanie Smith

      I agree. I was thinking the same thing. With our WRs, it is getting to “pick your poison” level, which is good.

  • Rob Base

    When Rivers gets the ball to him he comes threw. Brown goes up and gets the ball plus he opens up the feild for other receivers to make the big plays. He’s a keeper In my opinion.

  • mashuerta

    V Brown is a little slow to create separation in 2-3 seconds against a NFL CBs whereas Allen has PR moves & all the posession WR qualities you could hope for. Royal is smaller but a good deal faster.


  • http://www.standupforkids.org blackroseMD1

    I think Brown is more of the “third down” type of receiver…the guy with sure hands that you throw to a couple yards past the marker on first down, knowing he’s gonna make the catch.

  • Stefanie Smith

    He’s a fit. Gives us depth and as Calman21 pointed out, with our WR group, it then becomes “pick your poison”. They are like chess pieces, not workhorses.

    We’re not used to having depth and being able to move WRs around for different schemes and plays. The good teams do it.. not showing all they have, every play. Glad we are gaining that ability. Pick your poison-sounds fine to me.

  • OP Bolt

    On the other hand, I have seen plays where Brown has been open. For example, In the game where Rivers threw to Allen in tight coverage at the back of the end zone (which was incomplete), Brown was completely alone at about the 5 yard line. Sometimes Rivers tends to zone in on a hot receiver, especially in the red zone. Now that Allen is starting to rack up numbers, maybe teams will try to adjust coverages against Gates and Allen, which may provide some better advantages to Brown as we move forward?

  • tubbs45

    I think VB has been critical to the Offensive success we have had this year. With good hand and solid route running he is a nice out that has been open quite a bit, philip opting for others. From what I’ve seen Allen get better separation immediately, Royal is better in the slot, Hawkins who knows, Seyi hasn’t really seen the field too much. This is where a trade for someone like Gordon would be interesting. All that being said I know that Rivers trust VB..

  • Sergio Quintero

    He’s not a perfect fit, he fits more an offense with 5-7 step drops because he struggles with 2 things: he doesn’t do well against press coverage, and he’s got “build up speed”, meaning he truly reaches full speed after a few strides.

    He’s better in intermediate and long throws, because he makes up for the jam, he gets time to run patterns which is his true strength, and he’s sneaky with his speed, but he does not get a great deal of separation 2 second patterns. He will get better and fit better, the moment he improves his technique getting of the line, which always improves with experience and work in the weight room.

    Also he always appears to be option 3-4 on every play, hard to get throws in a quick throw offense when you are so low in the totem poll. They should throw more play action now that Mathews is playing well, and use it to get Brown some intermediate throws and raise his confidence.

  • Oscar R Alcantar

    I agree that he hasnt broke out this year like we hoped he wud. With Norv he looked like he had a lot of potential.. But lets not forget to mention the things he does well that Royal doent do… He CATCHES the ball… He goes after the ball… Royal drops alot of balls…it seems the only time he has made plays is wen he is left alone because everyone else os double teamed… But wen he is covered he cant outrun anyone… He cant outjump anyone….I still pick VB over Royal….he does a better job at CATCHING THE BALL

  • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

    I give him a mulligan, for now. Let’s see how he looks by the end of the season. He was out all last year, and is returning from a significant injury. Once the offense has some some stability, we could see a totally different receiver.

  • IronMountain

    Brown has plenty of moves, problem is 90% of his receptions have been sideline routes, and he has no where to go after the catch.

  • Jon Marine

    Vincent Brown is needed for that long play. Sure Whiz’s playbook utilizes mostly short-range passes and screens, but you still need that mid-long range threat to keep the opposing defense honest, and that’s what Brown brings to the table, as well as Keenan Allen. Also, Brown is too good and has too much potential to just let go of. We need to keep him and remember that he doesn’t have to have those 300 receiving games in a season. He only needs to produce when Philip and the Chargers need him, and so far this season, he has done that.