Apr 27, 2013; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers draft picks D.J. Fluker , Manti Teo and Keenan Allen pose for a photo with their jerseys during a press conference at Chargers Park. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports

Poll Position: Chargers Draft A Bust?


Apr 27, 2013; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers draft picks D.J. Fluker , Manti Teo and Keenan Allen pose for a photo with their jerseys during a press conference at Chargers Park. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports

Earlier in the year I posted a poll on how the Chargers draft went. I figure it’s time to see what we think now, after game one. Obviously, a draft class takes years to evaluate. But when you hit, you know it almost immediately.. just see Ansah, Ogletree, Jordan.. all of who are in the rookie of the year running. I actually was a big supporter of taking Ogletree in the first round to replace Spikes. Everyone thought it was a reach at 11, since we needed o-line help. Fluker hasn’t played poorly, but I still feel he was a “weird” choice. We could have kept Clary at RT with similar results, and drafted a guard… since Clary is not a great guard, so far.

The release of Demario Williams may be the most puzzling move, as we took a chance on Manti Te’O, and kept Bront Bird as the back-up ?????? Not that I think that Te’O can’t get it done, but he had all kinds of baggage that came with him, and my first choice would have been Ogletree in the first round.. who is currently lighting up the league… But, I would have been happy with taking Bostic at some point too, since we were giving up picks anyway. we also took Ingram, when I thought we should have taken Mercilus.. who also is doing much better than Ingram since draft day, and Ingram has had an unfortunate injury. I really hope Super Mel comes on like gang busters. But, it seems like Mercilus, and Nick Perry are doing auight.

When I think about it… who is actually contributing from our draft? Fluker is on the field, but is mainly good at run blocking, and is struggling in pass protection. He certainly wasn’t a big factor in the second half of Monday’s game. Te’O is on the sideline, and we gave up a pick for him. Keenan was a no show in game one. Williams is on IR. Tourek was inactive, and Sorensen is a back-up. That’s 5 out of 6 players not helping the team to win, in any way / shape/ or form…  so far. How can that be good for a team that needed to hit on 3 out of 7 picks (or six picks, in our case), in order to contend? I think that’s what I remember TT saying was a successful draft ???

So, what I want to know… is… was this a good draft? I personally cringed when they picked Fluker over Vaccaro & Ogletree… and so far… I’m not feeling a whole lot better. Do you?

Was the 2013 Chargers Draft A Bust?

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  • Mz. Sarah

    Te’o and Allen were/are busts. Should’ve went for Lacy. But what do I know

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      You might know a lot… don’t underestimate yourself ; )

      • Mz. Sarah

        Haha thanks! I actually do. #bootboy was a pure bust

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          I think not resigning Demario Williams, and keeping Bront Bird is a bigger bust ; )

          • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

            Lacy could be a bust too, but running against SF is tough for a first game

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            SF looked beastly.

          • Nick in PB

            Demario Williams would have been a good keeper. I think it was an age issue.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            You can have age… or Bront.

  • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

    I LOVE that someone already took the Mathews / English answer! Clapping hands, as Stef would say ; )

    • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

      lol we still don’t know about those 2 yet yikes. I’d love to see English make some huge plays that would be sweet.

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        I’m still waiting.. hahaha.. good grief!

  • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

    I post these articles late… so I can get the East Coast votes… and make the Fansided news blast… bwahahaha!

    Actually, this is the only time I have to write, without my wife givin’ me grief… Truth.

    • Adam

      I feel ya man. Sometimes my diehardedness gets me in trouble with my wife. I’ve got stories.

      • Adam

        We should have an article about times when charger-love has gotten us I’m hot water! It might be hilarious

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Good idea… I might actually do that.. lol. There have definitely been some couch nights for my “bad attitude” after we lose over the years. Hahahaha.

  • Stan Zab

    So because Te’o hurt his foot in preseason, he’s a bust. Fluker is a beast, he’s a rookie in his first year in the NFL facing JJ Watt…a bust already. Allen played in one game, as a rookie playing the #4 WR role, a bust. SMH. For real?

    • Stefanie Smith

      Like Jerry Jones says, “Can’t make the club in the tub.” T’eo should go to another doctor then. He has to get well and fast.

      • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

        AGREED!!!!!

        • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

          Fluker is going to start racking up the Pancakes (maybe even eating a few) in the Eagles game I can see him bullying dudes. He is going to be a great RT. Wish we could do something about Clarey now but there aren’t any options out there.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            Yeah, it was a tough FA for guards. And the best ones in the draft were top ten picks.. ridiculous!!!

          • Calman21

            We could do a lot worse than Clary at RG. The FO wouldn’t have kept him if they knew we could do better (see Gaither and Meachem). Lets see him against a defense that isn’t going to be tearing up people all year and then make some judgements.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Who said anyone was a bust?

  • John Alton

    I am thankful you are not the GM or head coach. This team would be a disaster. 1 game into the season and the rookie are being labeled busts. This is ridiculous.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      I asked if you all thought it was a bust. I didn’t say anyone was a bust. I still think Fluker was a weird pick, but he is the only player starting right now, so that pick worked out. I would have picked Ogletree or Bostic over Te’O (both who are contributing well on their respective teams now), but, I can’t say Te’O was a bust, obviously. Out of 13 players drafted in the last two years, only three played on Monday night. Two started, and one saw limited action. Personally, I had higher hopes than that. Obviously, we will be getting some players back from injury over the next year, or so. It’s just too bad, because we need players contributing now, that’s all.

      • http://www.signonsandiego.com/ Ambitoos

        We haven’t even seen him play. He could be the greatest thing since sliced bread. He also could be a bust but it’s way to soon to evaluate him or the others.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          It’s cool, I just disagree. Nor did I say Te’O was a bust. I just would have picked differently. I felt that way before the draft, and I feel that way now. These guys didn’t require trading away additional picks, when the cupboard was bare, either.

  • Derek

    Ogletree has character issues and dodges blocks taking himself out of plays. Wait till teo gets on the field to judge that one. Fluker is looking better than fisher I haven’t heard anything about lane Johnson. I agree demorrio should have been kept. Tourek is a gamble that won’t look bad or good till next season, same for Williams late picks aren’t ready for the nfl they just have shown potential. I’m hoping with teo healthy we can have a bowman Willis tandem. Ogletree is a dime lb if his zone coverage holds up. All in all I’m ok with his draft other picks like Varacco or ogletree would have left us unable to compete this yr.

    • Stefanie Smith

      I heard a ton of good stuff about Lane Johnson. They are totally happy with him in Philly and as you can see, it’s making a difference.

      • Calman21

        I don’t think Johnson has faced the level of defenses that Fluker has either in the pre-season or regular season. We shall see how good he is against our front line.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Isn’t the Redskins D pretty good? Not the Texans, but they aren’t the Saints either. Just a thought.
          Fluker got thrown to the wolves.. lol. He did OK, I thought. I think we should have ran more behind him, but that’s in the rearview now.

          • Calman21

            Fluker faced Seattle, Arizona, SF, and the Bears… and Houston….4/5 of those should be top 5 defenses this year. Washington is nowhere near the level of those teams, at best I would say they are average. Eagles played the Jets (pretty strong D), Carolina (unsure up to this point how good they will be), Patriots (should be top 15, but they did surrender 20+ points to a rookie QB), Jags (HS school 3rd string defense). None of them have the level of pass rushers that have faced off against Fluker almost every week (with the exception or AZ).

          • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

            Ya he’s going to start owning some dude real soon starting this Sunday

          • Calman21

            I am actually looking forward to watching our D-Line chase Vick all over the place and beating him senseless. He was actually in the prison right next door to FT. Leavenworth during the same time I was stationed there :D.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            Agreed. I just remember the announcers pumping the Redskins D before the game. Not sure where they ranked, honestly. Fluker has definitely had some tough outings. Trial by Fire, right?

          • Calman21

            I would say so.

          • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

            Fluke’s PFF rating for game one was -3.6 I don’t know exactly what that means lol but I know negative score is not so good. I think Joekel’s was like -1.6 and he was graded as not have done so well allowing 1 sack and 3-4 hurries.

          • Calman21

            Joekel was going up against the Raiders D…Fluker was going up against Houston…primarily the DPOY.

          • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

            Yeah, not very good, really. However, it was against last year’s defensive player of the year.. lol. He didn’t get Philip killed, like Max Starks or Harris would have, so I am happy with that. Also, I don’t think they ran to his side enough, which is his strength. Only a handful of times, actually. That’s Whiz’s fault. Let’s see how the guy does next week, I guess. He’s definitely a work in progress.

          • Nick in PB

            Agree. I was really worried about Fluker going up against JJ. You know the game plan was to put JJ on the rookie. He help up well considering. Fluker has got a whole lot of pride when it comes to his game and attitude. He’s the kind of guy that will get up for his opponent. He wants to dominate him. It just so happened that he was going up against the best in his first NFL game. I’m not at all disappointed with this pick.

      • Derek

        Yeah lol I saw a few articles on him after I posted…. Oops. Well from what I saw of fluker I’m happy he’s strong can move. Yeah jj was killing him with that swim move but as ull see if u follow the texans it coulda been worse. Telesco did the best he could with 11.

  • joerockt

    Kinda premature considering 2 of those guys haven’t seen the field yet.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      I hear ya. When I did the first poll about what we thought of the draft months ago, I said I would follow it up with another one after week one, to see if anyone felt differently. Personally, it’s never too premature to see how people feel about a draft. You can see above that a lot of people still think that you need to wait four years to even discuss it.. I’m not waiting that long.. lol. The general consensus from the first article was that it got between a B / C, and that we needed three of these guys to be contributing by week one to give a higher grade. I am just pointing out that we have one starter on the field, so far. If people have now changed their mind in hindsight… great. That is the purpose of the article… to find out how people feel now.

      • joerockt

        So your first poll was asking if the draft was a “bust”? Not sure I’m understanding the logic here. There’s a difference between declaring drafted players or the whole draft itself a “bust” and saying that you don’t like the players that were drafted. I’ve maintained myself that I didn’t really like the Te’o pick, but I wouldn’t call him or the draft a bust until I see the guy play for a few games. Even then, he may not be a bust even if his play isn’t that great. Even high drafts take time to develop.

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          No, the first article was right after draft week, so it couldn’t have had that title. All of these draft articles will probably have different titles. But, they will all address how people feel about the draft at certain points. So far, it seems like the majority of people are still undecided. In the article, I am just giving my point of view, which is simply that I would have chosen differently, and that I had hoped that more than 3 out of 13 players drafted over the last two years would be on the field at the start of this season. I voted undecided, for the record.

        • http://www.signonsandiego.com/ Ambitoos

          Well said, I agree.

  • Calman21

    At this point the answer has to be no. In a couple of years….we shall see. Considering this was Fluker’s first game and against a monstrous defense he did pretty well. Te’o got hurt…it happens. Allen will be out there eventually (I would guess you will see him and Green more against the Eagles). Give the rookies more than a game against an assortment of opponents before you call bust. Even then, as I said originally, it will likely take a couple of years to know for sure.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Great comments Calman!!!

      • Calman21

        Thanks. I see a lot of craziness of the sky is falling on everything. So I try to add a little perspective (Not saying your article is of the chicken little variety).

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          Not at all. I thought your comment was well thought out, and that you understood the article. I voted undecided, personally. Did you notice that so far 27 people have voted “yes”? It’s a small minority, but some already feel it was not a good draft. Interesting. That’s kinda why I do these polls.. to gauge the actual climate of what everyone thinks, not just the people who are commenting. So many times, I have thought people would feel one way about a topic, based on the outspoken comments I see on the site. Then I post a poll, and you find that the results are MUCH different. In this case, the results are pretty much where I thought they would be.

          • Calman21

            I would hazard to guess they have a large overlap with blaming the Houston loss all or mostly on Rivers and that he needs to be traded or gotten rid of.

  • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    Flukers pro football focus for the first game actually had him graded poor run blocking but that was going up against the leagues poster boy JJ so it makes sense. We gotta see what Te;o can do and if Allen is going to play much. Loosing Stevie was a big blow to our rookie crop but who knows maybe these guys pay off huge at some point this season.

    Ogletree looks like a freakin playmaker, would of been nice getting the honey badger as our Nickle guy he’s a straight baller.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Great point, Mr. Blanks! Most people didn’t want the Honey Badger, remember? He was a “sure bust”, and a character issue risk.. (like Ogletree). How is that looking now? LMAO!!! Especially with our CB issues. I never had a problem with him, and could tell he would come out strong. He still has a lot to prove, but so far so good.

  • Stefanie Smith

    I think where the rub comes from these rookies, is that fans believed or were led to believe that they would be immediate impact players for the team–regardless of their lack of NFL experience. That is not happening. Thus, the frustration, or a little disappointment. So many of you on this board thought all these rookies would be ruling the NFL immediately.

    Doesn’t look like that is happening.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      Exactly, Stef. I wanted to see how people felt about that, after all the talk about how we needed players that contribute immediately. Doesn’t seem to bother anyone, I guess? Not that we should be throwing in the towel on them this soon, but the consensus was that we needed to hit on three immediate starters. I guess that has changed, now that it hasn’t happened. I don’t think it is a bust.. not yet anyway.. but, some of the concerns I had going in, are starting to manifest. It’s only week one though.

      • Nick in PB

        So far, injuries have caused much of the disappointment, in my opinion. 3 of the 7 aren’t playing. To say that injuries have been unfair to the Chargers is an understatement!

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      I still think this was the smartest comment.

  • C.Steele

    Truthfully I wasn’t overly exited about the pick of Fluker in the first either. With that being said, to try to grade this years draft after one game doesn’t deserve a response..

  • arnie

    I hear what you’re sayin’ Pete, and I agree there were other picks that have shown up big on game day. Nothing would make me more happy than all our picks coming up big. To me, that’s just how the draft is, 50/50 shot at best. There is plenty of information to tell whether a pick will exceed expectations, but that’s just it the expectations for the Chargers were low anyway. Closer to the truth if this team had a lot of holes to fill, an probably still do, 6 picks weren’t going to change that. If anything the others you mention had good foundation to succeed, while the Chargers need these 6 to BE the foundation. Now, when it comes down to it, the Chargers really didn’t have a lot of options, or leverage when it came to picks or trades. ( Thanks aj ) so they went with what they had. Up side, the Charges lost 5 players to Free Agency, and that translat to compensoy picks, BUT they also brought in FA so they may offset.
    Either way, I think the draft got us good players that have been in need for some time.

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      That’s fair. It would be nice if more players from the previous draft were on the field right now, too. Reyes, Fluker, & Green were the only draft picks from the last two drafts that played… and we were facing one of our toughest opponents on the schedule in primetime. If I said I wasn’t concerned about that, or that I think we are right on schedule, I would be lying to myself.

      • arnie

        You’re right, you should be concerned, but there a multiple of reasons, or excuses as to why they are not. Two that jump out at me are coaching and injuries, this blog as, well as our heads are filled with facts, real or not, to make a case for concern. However consider this, this team as it is, put up 28 points and came within a stop or two, of beating a team that was contending for a Superbowl last year. Again nobody, expected them to do well, yet that was a good start with some of the top draft picks not playing.
        Context. ;)

        • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

          You always have a way of putting things, Arnie. You should sell insurance.. J/K

  • RZ

    I’ll have a more educated guess hopefully by the end of this season…c’mon you couldn’t think of anything else to waste time writing about besides this BS! SMH!!

    • http://www.BoltBeat.com/ Peter Thompson

      I guess not. Sorry to disappoint you.

  • Nick in PB

    Peter, no way you can call it a bust. Fluker is doing all right for a rookie and he’s going to get better. He certainly isn’t an elite pass blocker yet but it seems the only drafted O-Lineman that’s doing quite well so far is Chris Long and he’s been a surprise. I’d say Fluker is on par with the rest of them. No way to make a judgement on Te’O yet. Not until he has a chance to show us what he can do. And WR usually struggle their first year as a receiver but so far, I like Allens hands. He’s shown he can catch. T. Williams was a project as was Sorrenson. Steve Williams was looking really good for a rookie before he got hurt.

    • I_Bleed_Powder_Blue_801

      Everyone is just discusted from Monday still…Spoke to my pops (long distance sd to ut) tonight and his words were “that was discusting”
      As much as I want these guys to win, I dont have high expectations for now…It’s too early under the MM & TT regime…..It’s hard to swallow that loss since they had a huge lead…As for #50, we have to wait to see if he will be able to live up to the hype once he’s healthy….Keenan is stuck on the depth chart, but I would like to see Whiz get his players on the field…..Fluker is a Beast each time I see him shove another player I’m glad that I’m not that player….

  • RussinSactown

    I think Fluker is still a good pick up. I think if he blocked for Fozzie, we’d all be saying we love him. Te’o is a question mark. He’s injured. Allen, we’ll see. I think Royal is going to be the favorite target now. Is it a bust yet? I’m going to keep my pick and not see this as a bust just yet.