Philip Rivers: “Final Audition”

Dec 30, 2012; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers (17) during the second quarter against the Oakland Raiders at Qualcomm Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Jake Roth-USA TODAY Sports

Apparently, Philip Rivers is facing his final audition.

“No one will say it, but I think that 2013 is the final audition of Philip Rivers,” – Kevin Acee

Is this for real? No one will say it? Maybe. nobody will say it because nobody is thinking it.

Final audition? First off, don’t think that Philip Rivers will fail this final audition, but we are talking about a quarterback that won 7 games without any players around him. Our best runningback last year was Ronnie Brown. Our best receiver was picked up in the middle of the season. Our starting left tackle was an undrafted rookie. And he still won 7 games!

Philip has struggled. He has made inexcusable throws. He needs to get comfortable again. He needs to play smarter. Still, why would this be his final audition?

I would take Philip Rivers over a lot of quarterbacks in the league. Alex Smith and Matt Flynn just joined the AFC West and I would rather have Philip running the show over them.

Philip will be better this season. We will get offensive weapons for him and the new coaching staff will get the offense rolling again.

Topics: Philip Rivers, San Diego Chargers

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  • Cgoodness13

    Why hasn’t acee been fired yet?!

  • JTeran

    amen brother

  • Rob Base

    Whamp whamp whamp Acee is a pompis ass! Rivers will be fine just give him some weapons and better O line. Sorry for the potty mouth lmao

  • arnie

    My my, how the tables have turned. T & M are poalr opposites to norv an aj. and acee has gone from aj’s chap-stick boy, to trash talker? because that’s what he’s doing. talking trash by ignoring the facts.

    “…Rivers has committed 47 turnovers over the past two seasons, the most of any player in the non-Mark Sanchez division. The prior regime did Rivers no favors, depleting the cast of playmakers around him while allowing the offensive line to turn to mush. Rivers was sacked 49 times last season. You’d probably be chucking and ducking, too….”

    we can stop right there. when PR made the playoffs in his first four years as the starter, he was sacked an average of 22 times a season.

    • RussinSactown

      Kevin Acee loved AJ. Now that his buddy is gone, he’s like an ex-girlfriend’s running buddy, just pissed at everything you do.

      • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

        Dang it is so true

      • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

        You are so right. I think he said he has limited access to TT and McCoy.

      • arnie

        LOL That is so true Russell….LOL

    • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

      Ha! Chap-Stick boy! Nice.

      • arnie

        I surprise myself some days…LOL

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1672216122 Daryl Peek

    I love it! PR needs to be challenged! RM24 was correct when he said many were complacent under Norv. Phillip was the most complacent, he sounded just like Norv in post game interviews. I hope Telesco drafts a young gun or brings in a solid vet to push PR. We need to see a chomping at the bit behind Brees #17 again!

  • http://www.facebook.com/sid.klum Sid Klum

    Clueless, if Rivers is smart he pulls a Gaither and sits out until Spanos lets Telesco sign a decent line. Otherwise he will be knocked into retirement this year.

  • http://www.facebook.com/sid.klum Sid Klum

    There were times in games the past 2 years where Turner wouldn’t allow Rivers to drop back and pass because of the lack of decent lineman on the field. Norv even acknowledged this in after game press conferences. Right now Chargers are playing for last place with da R-A-I-D-E-R-S.

  • Tom Spalsbury

    Philip Rivers is our man. I still say he’s the best QB in the AFC.west. F.Manning.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

    We get rid of Rivers and we will end up like AZ was and/or the Raiders–struggling to look for a franchise QB. And no QB will do well when you give him no tools, provide him with no protection, and trade away (or let walk away) what few decent players we had.
    The naysayers will point to Andrew Luck—but hey he had Reggie Wayne. We would have let Reggie Wayne walk. Without any tools, where would Andrew Luck be?

    Yeah, Rivers has to perform but at the very least, give him at least some basic protection and some consistency. We also cannot have this revolving door of players going on each season.

    • JoseSD

      None of the WR, or any players at any position that they let leave have the same amount of talent Reggie Wayne has

      • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

        Exactly! So Rivers really has no one!

        • JoseSD

          What I was referring to was you saying if the chargers had been in the Andrew Luck scenario they would have let Wayne leave, and I don’t think that’s the case. You keep commenting about all these players they let walk away, but IMO those players with the exception of Aubrayo Franklin needed to go. And no Philip isn’t alone out there, what he needs is good protection on his blind side, we need a starting LT and LG they may or may not already be in th roster we’ll find out after the draft and the post draft cuts and free agent signings are made. And Philip does have weapons Woodhead and Mathews at RB(Mathews did have over 400 receiving yards in 2011), Antonio Gates and Ladarius Green at TE, Floyd, V Brown, Alexander(no one has been interested in taking him away, probably because of his injury history) Eddie Royal and Meachem are still on the team. Meachem excels as a #3-4 wr against a nickel cb, it sucks he gets paid so much but as long as he’s here might as well use him effectively, and Royal had a bad hamstring all year but towards the end of the season he looked really good when healthy. What im getting at is that the main thing is keeping Philip upright, theywon 7 games and could of won 10-11 all while Philip spent most of the time on his back or running(more like jogging actually) for his life. He can take this team back to the playoffs if he is protected

          • Nick in PB

            I totally agree. Keep Rivers protected and our receiving corps will be just fine. I wished we hadn’t let Spurlock go. I liked what he was doing after we brought him back. We have a lot of money tied up in Royal and Meachum so let’s see what the new coaching staff can do with them. They have both had success in the past. Let’s just say that Norv didn’t have a clue how to use Meachum. Either way, Philip needs protection. Everything else will work itself out.

      • Nick in PB

        If we keep Alexander and he stays healthy, he’s a star. Many people don’t realize that he lead the nation in receiving at Missouri his senior year! Then he hurt his knee in a bowl game. Didn’t get drafted. We all saw last year, he is a stud but he needs another year like last year to prove it.

        • JoseSD

          He also had 4 knee surgeries at Missouri which is why he went undrafted and he was injured a lot with the Rams, he needs to stay healthy and play like he did last season if he’s gonna stay

    • davacho

      AGREED!!!!!!

  • http://twitter.com/BReisinger86 Brandon Reisinger

    I’m not a fan of Acee, but you have to admit that its is a curious case as to why Telesco did not restructure PRs contract in a year we are so restricted by cap space and have so many glaring needs. Especially after PR walked into his office and offered to restructure. I think he is very much so being evaluated and Telesco is not going to restructure his contract untill he knows the PR of old is back. But how can you evaluate him unless you protect him? I don’t care who our receiving core is, in 2010 PR had what should have been an MVP season with no name receivers. Just protect the dude!

    • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

      No. I agree there. TT would not ask to restructure as he isn’t sure of Rivers. He doesn’t even know Rivers. But he didn’t try to get Weddle to restructure either–not sure of Weddle either (funny, Acee didn’t say this was Weddle’s final audition). However, for Acee to encourage the notion that this is Rivers’ “final audition” at this stage of the game skirts the issue as to what is TT going to do to FIX the problems left by his predecessor AJ?

      This whole thing has a negative tone to it. Since Telesco and McCoy got here, people aren’t feeling positive about the Chargers. Everyone has to admit that.

      There is this feeling of negativity or that people are in trouble.. something. Now it’s Rivers… and the guy hasn’t had a chance to throw a stinking football to anybody yet that TT or McCoy can see. They better not be threatening him because that would be worse than AJ.

      NFL.com is running with the Acee article. Great… another negative thing about the Chargers.

      • http://twitter.com/BReisinger86 Brandon Reisinger

        That is a very interesting point! Weddle is a team player and i’m sure would have been willing to move things around in his contract to open up some cap space. Interesting that he was not approached, he’s certainly not under any scrutiny.

        I don’t agree that things have a negative tone however. I don’t pretend to know the ins and outs of what Telesco is cooking up here. He obviously has a plan that he is implementing and a big part of that is obviously trimming the fat and setting this team up so that we are never in a cap situation like this again. Its a new administration, We as fans where abused by the previous administration the last few years so we are eager to see things get back on track, but everyone needs to realize that it might take a couple years to make this team a contender again “THE RIGHT WAY!” I for one like what Telesco is doing. He’s not thinking about the next year, he’s thinking about the next decade! Think all about next year is what AJ did last year… look where that got us.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

          If it is not negative, then why is there any talk about getting rid of Rivers? So far, everyone has hit the revolving door.. not too many resignings. Is TT saying no one on the Chargers was worth keeping? There wasn’t one player on the entire squad that would have at least kept us the same or as good as what we are getting now on these new signings?

          • http://twitter.com/BReisinger86 Brandon Reisinger

            Nothing formal that this is Rivers “Final Addition” Its all speculation. Fans are all over the place right now, including myself. Obviously he is saying that a lot of these guys where not worth keeping, Is the juice worth the squeeze? All serviceable players, but the previous administrations guys and i would imagine that if they fit in the plan and could be gotten at a reasonable price they would have been back.

            Let me ask you this, Do you want a GM that comes in and simply tries to fix what the previous administration was doing, or a GM that forms his own plan and implements it? This team obviously needed the pot stirred.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            I would like to see things fixed. Change for the sake of change is not good. You modify what needs to be modified, but don’t come barreling in here with a new plan unless you can assure people it will in fact make it better than the last greatest plan that came to town.

            If he is discarding existing Charger players simply because those were AJ’s and Norv’s guys, then that is no plan, that is ego getting in the way..

          • http://twitter.com/BReisinger86 Brandon Reisinger

            Wouldn’t the only way to assure people it will work be……… If it works? O.o We’ll find out in time i guess

          • davacho

            you are assuming that tt discarded players “simply because those were aj’s and norv’s guys.” even if that were true- this is a business and you better believe that when a new ceo takes over a struggling company, a new culture will ensue. he’s only had a few months at the helm and he inherited a big mess. all of us want things fixed- we’re all just not as patient. i say let’s be realistic and be focused on brandon’s “decade” and not just 2013.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            I’m not assuming anything. That is why I said “if” at the beginning of the sentence. You have to wonder with those let go and who are the replacements.

            And that is fine to bring in your own guys, but they best be an improvement on who you just let walk out the door.

          • davacho

            the context of my response was in regards to the context of your post saying (not assuming) that discarding old regime players is bad and “that is ego getting in the way.” i say that is a man doing his job the best that he can with what he’s been given.

            i agree that the new should be better than the old, but this is SO fresh- tough to jump to conclusions at this point in the season.

            and why is tt “barreling in here with a new plan” bad… you like the old plan????

            damned if he does and damned if he doesn’t with you. if he comes in and leaves the roster as is- he’s a weeny… if he makes too many changes he’s overly aggressive. you can’t have both- all you can do is being positive, wait and see for now. heads can roll later. : ) i’ll help you lift the axe!

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            No, but just because it is change, doesn’t mean it is good. That is all I am saying. And no, he is not damned if he does, and damned if he doesn’t. Why didn’t he get Vasquez re-signed? Why did he let Aubrayo Franklin walk? And while Vaughan Martin wasn’t great, he did step up and should have been at least offered something–another allowed to go. There are numerous others. Do you, personally, think everyone on the Chargers’ team was lousy? There was not one redeeming player that TT should have kept?

            You seem to think that just because he is the new guy somehow anything he does is better. This guy (TT), operating at optimum, will make mistakes. He hasn’t been a GM before, so it’s likely he will make a few. We give him all the credit for the Colts, when it was actually Grigson who put the Colts together.

          • davacho

            LMAO! there are reasons that neither of us know as to why players got dropped. i don’t believe that “lousy” is a sole reason or even THE reason why players were let go. i think we let talent walk, but i’m giving the new guy a chance to put together his team (not yours, not mine and certainly not aj’s).

            i’ve never said or implied that anything he does is better- i’ve just been asking you to consider your judgements as premature.

            grigson did well and tt got credit. aj did bad- does tt get credit? let the man work.

            we both want the same thing and we’re both dismayed by the talent that has left the past several years +, but let’s be patient. sorry if i’m coming across harsh- we’re a passionate bunch here! : )

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            And you have that wrong.. It is your team and mine. He is an employee of the Chargers’ organization. It’s not Telesco’s team. He simply works there. They cater to us, the people that pay.

          • davacho

            it is HIS team because he is responsible for it. if the chargers fail you don’t lose your job, he does. it’s his job to create a championship winning team- there is NOTHING that you can do except support the team on game day. of course the chargers are our team, but we don’t make decisions.

            and you think joseD is “arguing for the sake of arguing”??? you’re on a roll girl!

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            Actually, a big part of why AJ and Norv are gone– the fans. Even Mr. Spanos said it. This is an entertainment business-and these businesses are responsive to the fans (the customers), i.e. seats being filled, no black outs, good advertising revenue etc.
            And as to my comment about joseD “arguing for the sake of arguing”, yes–as to the statements he made about restructuring. I don’t see what the issue is with that.

          • davacho

            have a great life : )

          • Nick in PB

            I half way agree with you Stefanie. We have let go more Chargers than I thought we needed too. We actually have more holes now than we did when the new people took over. The problem was that we had a TON of free agents. More than I can ever remember on the Chargers. The list was so long. 2 guys I would have liked to see us keep, Franklin and Vasquez, maybe Barnes. Otherwise, no way we were going to bring all those guys back. We wouldn’t have the money to do it. It seemed that after last season, we did just need to modify what we had. But the lack of cap space kept us from doing that. I think what you and most of us Charger fans are disappointed with is the fact that we seemed to be close. I would have said that all we needed was an improvement at LT, LG and CB. After that, we could compete with anyone. Then you take a look at the ages and the free agents we had. Change was coming.I would feel much better if we were set at LT.

          • davacho

            media slings what they want- this is one of the driest story times of the year and acee (like many other journalists) are speculating for the sake of material. you use absolutes (“everyone” “entire” “no one”) and that is ridiculous- he didn’t fire the whole team. geez…

      • davacho

        why is it funny that acee didn’t say it was weddle’s final audition???

        • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

          Because Acee based this whole “River’s final audition” on the fact that Telesco didn’t ask him to restructure when it would have helped this year on cap space. Same could be said for Weddle. He has a huge deal that affects the cap limits and was not asked to restructure. Is this Weddle’s “final audition” also? The whole point is you don’t ask for a restructure of a contract extending years on it when you are not sure you are going to keep the player(s) in question.

          • JoseSD

            A restructure isn’t an extension its taking less money up front and backloading on the contract, what you’re saying doesn’t make sense. A restructure is a short term solution to get cap relief now but you end up with a higher cap hit in the future, like Davacho said Acee has nothing in terms of a story he’s just creating speculation so he has something to write about. And please stop bringing weddle into this. He is the only person on the team that is underpaid, hes an all pro safety and a great locker room guy. Why would he restructure, his contract is up after next season. If anyone should restructure its clary, gates and meachem

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            What? You are saying Weddle is underpaid? Weddle was saying he was amenable to restructuring so that the Chargers could have more cap space. So did Rivers… but TT did not approach them.
            Do you even understand when restructuring is done? When they plan to keep a guy…like Dallas did with Romo, Pats did with Brady. The player gets guaranteed money on the back end.
            And you really are confused if you think they would ask Meachem, Clary or Gates to restructure because that would extend their contract more years. That is how restructuring works with a signing bonus, low hit to the cap for year 1 and in later years more guaranteed money. You wouldn’t ask a player to restructure that you don’t plan on keeping or have doubts.

            And when the alleged big cap hit comes—they would restructure once again if the salary cap was a problem or they had issues with the amount of guaranteed money—or try to get a pay reduction as what the Broncos tried to get Dumervil to do. It happens all the time.

            And better check Weddle’s salary before you start saying he is underpaid.

          • JoseSD

            You better check statistics before you think weddle isn’t underpaid, he signed a 5 year 40mil deal. Eric Berry has a 6 year 60 million deal and Weddle is clearly along with Jairus Byrd as the best 2 safeties in the AFC. And once and for all let me correct you since you keep making this mistake. A restructure is not the same thing as an extension. Tom Brady restructured his contract, Tony Romo signed a contract extension. A restructure is when the player takes less money in the current year providing cap relief but takes more money in the last years of the deal, an extension is essentially signing a new deal with your current team adding more years to your current deal. A restructure does not add more years to your deal, so please stop mistaking them. And I disagree with Acee’s opinion that a lack of a restructure means only one more year if Philip to get better or be gone, at least what he’s saying makes rational sense. If they were to restructure his deal and pay him less now, they’d pay him more later. I don’t know the details of his contract so I don’t know how much money is guaranteed. But let’s say they don’t want to keep him after this year and they restructured to pay him morein those later years, whatever money he has guaranteed that wasn’t paid to him yet the Chargers would be on the hook if they cut him

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            I did check my information. You win.. You want to argue now just for the sake of arguing. No, Weddle is not underpaid. And you make my point and Acee’s. If they want to get rid of him and they had restructured, then they would have to pay the money they had guaranteed on the back end. Acee asserts that is why this is Rivers’ final audition… they would not restructure or guarantee him money down the line (even to ease up on cap space) because they have doubts (at least right now) that he is staying.
            My beef with Acee’s argument is it is a little early to say that seeing that TT really doesn’t even know Rivers and neither Rivers or McCoy have seen him in training camp or anything yet….They don’t know Rivers and Rivers doesn’t know them. Seeing that Weddle was not asked to restructure, then Acee should have had the same concern about Weddle as he did for Rivers.

          • JoseSD

            Im not arguing just cause. I really like that you share the same passion for the Chargers as I do and I think more women should voice their opinions on sports. But I also think you should make sure your facts are right like the whole restructure versus contract extension thing. you should wait until Telesco makes real moves before you try to chase him out of town. Free agency is just phase one, the draft is gonna be his bread and butter. You seem to be really upset by the guys that we’re allowed to leave and think he’s just doing it cause they’re”AJs guys” but the reality is many of them were too old, didn’t deserve to come back like Cason and Bigby. Or in Vasquez’s case he was disrespected by not getting extended last year and already chose to leave. Be patient, let’s see how this roster looks like 23 days from now when the draft is over

          • davacho

            there is a loud echo in this room. : )

          • JoseSD

            Right?? Sometimes the things she says make my head spin, I don’t get where its coming from

          • davacho

            she is arguing on multiple fronts, but in the end, we’re all just fans that love the bolts. : )

          • davacho

            the final audition has more to do with river’s performance than his impact on cap… hence the word “audition.” still fail to see why you find it funny that weddle wasn’t lumped with rivers in regards to performance. maybe you misunderstand the situation and thought “final audition” was referencing cap?

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            Go listen to what Acee said. He made a big deal that Rivers was not asked to restructure. Thus, he concluded that this was Rivers’ final audition. If Acee’s theory held some substance, then extrapolate that and ask why then wouldn’t TT ask Weddle to restructure to save some cap space… One can reasonably conclude that for the same reason they did not ask Rivers to restructure, that the same reasoning he used should also apply to Weddle.

          • davacho

            we’ll have to disagree. rivers counts for 17 million against the cap and weddle 6 million. rivers hasn’t played great for a variety of reasons and weddle is at the top of his game. i don’t know how to make it any clearer for you. stop lumping the two together- we’ve both established that acee is not in the know- so let’s stop going back to him as some kind of credible source on this particular issue. let’s just say, “GO BOLTS!” : )

      • davacho

        pro bowl season = 88 tackles, 7 int, 0 ff and 0 td.

        last season = 97 tackles, 4 int, 2 ff and 1 td

        i think he’s doing just fine.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

        I would not be one of those people. We haven’t even made it to the draft, or finished free agency. How could anyone already be feeling that negative? I know people do feel that way, but its premature as heck. People will complain, but when they see a team playing to win, and that “I know what’s coming next” feeling goes away.. They will realize its all for the best… Even if it takes a minute to gel.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

    TT would have a whole lot of nerve putting the vibe out there that this is Rivers’ last hurrah when so far… well, TT hasn’t really produced yet either now, has he?

    • davacho

      tt hasn’t even finished an offseason lady! crap- it’s like looking at any player in his rookie year preseason games and make a comment like that – “well, so and so hasn’t really produced yet either now, has he?” lay off for a while- we won’t even know what we have in this year’s draft for 2-3 years.

      • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

        Hey, this is in response to Rivers’ last hurrah. How could he really get on Rivers when he doesn’t really know him and he himself has done not so much to improve Rivers?

        He hasn’t yet as you said he hasn’t even finished an offseason. Well, same can be said about Rivers–he hasn’t had a complete team yet, When he sort of had one, he got us to the playoffs.
        Lay off of TT for 2-3 years and this is Rivers’ final audition? No… he (TT) better help Rivers before he decides Rivers’ time is over in SD. It’s not okay to put the pressure on Rivers (if he in fact has) when he hasn’t done much to improve Rivers’ situation.

        • davacho

          you are assuming that acee is reporting something factual when you yourself said “You are so right. I think he said he has limited access to TT and McCoy.” i do agree that giving rivers a fair shake with a o-line is necessary before trading him.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            Agreed. And yes, I am sort of extrapolating and surmising from what Acee said.. and couple that with the fact that he did not ask either Rivers or Weddle to restructure. Not good, but understandable as he doesn’t really even know Rivers or Weddle at this point.

            Guess we will have to see what actually is done to give Rivers half a chance at success. Hopefully something pans out with the draft.

          • davacho

            yah, i was surprised by no restructure of contracts, but there must be something to the math that i don’t get. : )

            i think that the process of building through the draft will limit our high cap liabilities and afford us the option to splurge on high profile fa in the future. i’m just excited for the draft right now. : )

          • arnie

            Not really. by not restructuring PR’s deal, they accomplish two things. they get an excellent QB to work with that is under contract. One less signing head ache to deal with. If they restructure they are giving him more guaranteed money over a long period of time. that means if the last couple of seasons were not an aberration, they’re stuck with him.

            TT & MM believe they can turn PR back to that playoff pro bowl QB. After all they did say “…They’re going to work with what they have…”.

  • http://www.facebook.com/ryan.outlaw Ryan Elliott

    First off Acee is full of @#$%, He has no idea what is going on, Telesco and McCoy aren’t even talking to him, Acee has to make stuff up to make a story these days.

    The reason Telesco hasn’t restructured Rivers is because short term it helps but in the long term aspect, it’s more money guaranteed, which can hurt us in the long run.

    Acee at this point is throwing darts hoping something will stick. Like us, he has no clue what the heck he is talking about. If Telesco really wasn’t all in on Rivers and had his doubts, I’d imagine he’d find the highest bidder and acquire draft picks right now.

  • http://www.facebook.com/wyatt.warren.96 Wyatt Warren

    Fuck you acee

  • 619chargers4life

    yeah Kevin needs to put the pipe down, for sure .

  • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

    I have been reading this thread, and I keep thinking to myself… Is Rivers not being asked to restructure his deal a symbolic statement that TT doesn’t want to keep him around? Maybe TT just doesn’t believe in restructuring. It can REALLY get teams into trouble, and can be a slippery slope. Despite the cap situation, maybe he doesn’t feel its wise to shift money around like that. Maybe even gambling the future of the team away,. What if Rivers got hurt, and knocked out of contention indefinitely? Restructuring would seem like the dumbest move ever. The decision not to restructure isn’t based solely on performance. A lot of teams don’t restructure their franchise player’s contract when they run short on cap space. As for Acee, he seems a little bitter, lately. He’s not the guy anymore… Every move announced has been by Schefter.

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      I don’t think there is need for him to restructure. I don’t think it shows a lack of faith in him either

      • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

        Good,. At least I’m not the only one. This restructure talk makes no sense to me, at all. It really doesn’t.

    • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

      Somewhere I read that Rivers was open to it. But that could be baloney. Also heard Weddle was open to it. And go look on the NFL.com site… Almost every team out there is doing a restructuring (if they want more cap space) with their key players to get someone else signed, get an FA, get under the cap, etc etc.
      And prior to this article, many who respond to this website, asked how come they are not restructuring Rivers and Weddle. We talked about this before.

      Not the dumbest move ever–which is why so many teams do it.. If it gets tight in later years, then they restructure the player’s contract or modify it again. I argue that the Pats did not do something stupid, nor did Dallas. Dallas needed some cap space to sign the draft selections, and sign a few. New York Giants–hardly stupid to restructure Diehl’s (I believe it was him)… so they can get Cruz signed and sign their draft selections. There are too many teams using restructuring to call the move stupid.. We, the Chargers, are the ones swimming against the current. Not saying it is wrong, but it is what it is.

      And if you are worried about the player getting injured, then you are in the AJ school.of thought–you’re only safe here for one year. If teams had this overwhelming fear of the player getting knocked out of contention–no need to sign them to a multi-year deal ever, but teams still do it.

      A good question to ask is how do you think Rivers and Weddle are reading this? Rivers and Weddle and Gates at least could have been part of the solution here.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

        Oh… you didn’t know, Steph?!!! I <3 AJ.. he's my hero… we all love him on here (Good Grief). I love how the minute that someone doesn't share your opinions… because that's all they are… that they immediately are in the "AJ category", and completely clueless. You constantly take a sentence that someone writes, and turn it into something they didn't say. I merely said that if Rivers got hurt, the restructure thing wouldn't SEEM so hot. Then you turn it into I don't think any player should ever be given a good contract over one year. Then you go on to turn it into me saying that any team who restructures a deal is stupid for doing so… which isn't what I said, either. All I said was that it can be a slippery slope. Can it work? Yes. Can it also fail misreably? Yes. Are you saying that every deal restructure ever is/was a good thing?

        Also, a month ago, you were in here shooting off about why we weren't signing big name tackles & guards… letting players go, etc. You hadn't even looked at the contract & salary cap numbers yet. Then you found an article, or site, that broke it down.. and you came back in here like "Oh, I get it"… but, then you suddenly turned into a smarmy expert about it after a week… like nobody else gets it. Same thing with this restructure thing.. you had no clue… you got on that "above the cap" site, or whatever.. now you are bashing everybody for being uneducated, as if you are the expert.

        Not to mention… the usage of words like "surmise" and "extrapolate" is annoying. I'm a college graduate, but nobody else goes around throwing that crap out on here… lol. What, are we writing a thesis? Are we in debate class, trying to score extra points with the judges? Sorry to burst your bubble… but, "vibe killer" is right on the money. I know I can be annoying on here too… everyone can… but good Lord Steph… give it a rest.. please? Sucks, because I appreciate your opinions a lot of the time. Nobody has to agree on here, but your cmments have lost the "friendly debate" quality, and are now just "argumentative for arguments sake". If you don't like our viewpoints there is a collapse option, just for these types of things. I suggest you use it, instead of always trying to set people straight.

        • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

          Yeah… crickets. That’s what I thought. LMFAO!

  • joerockt

    Unless you have someone that’s PROVEN to be better than PR, you just don’t have much of a choice but to keep the guy under center. The Faiders and Chefs have struggled for years now to find that guy.

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