San Diego Chargers Potential Cap Casualties

November 25, 2012; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers offensive tackle Jeromey Clary (66) and offensive guard Louis Vasquez (65) during the first quarter against the Baltimore Ravens at Qualcomm Stadium. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-USA TODAY Sports

It seems that the Chargers are running out of cap space to add players, but if they want to add a few more players onto the roster for the offensive line and other positions, there still are different areas in which we can free up some room. Here are a list of Chargers players that still are not safe from getting the pink slip.

Jared Gaither – $500,000 saved cap space
There is not a lot of cap space that can be saved this year for releasing Gaither, but it could save the team from a potential headache. If they were to release him, it gets him off of the books for next season too. It would just be a lot of dead money to absorb this year.

Jeromey Clary – $2.3M saved cap space
If the Chargers were to sign Eric Winston to play right tackle, the Chargers would likely release Jeromey Clary in order to make room under the cap. I don’t even think Winston would even take up that much room.

Eddie Royal  -$1.5M saved cap space
Does Mike McCoy believe in Eddie Royal? Does he want to keep him around? If we can lock up Danario Alexander to a deal, I can see Eddie Royal getting the pink slip. Have to free up some room somewhere to pay Danario.

LeRon McClain – $1.4M saved cap space
There is no reason to release McClain right now, but if we are able to pick up a good player in free agency, then McClain could get the boot. Would you rather have McClain around or have Corey Lynch back around for another season?

Charlie Whitehurst – $1.3M saved cap space
If the Chargers want to go in another direction for the backup QB role, then there is $1.3M that can be put back in the pocket.

If we release those 4 players, we could open  up around $5.7M in cap space. There would also be over $14M in dead money. I definitely can see all these  player put on the chopping block. Still a lot of moves to make before the start of the season. Still a lot of time.

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  • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

    I don’t know how this plays into it, but look at the “dead money” issue. Some sites are saying if we cut Gaither and/or Meachem now we would end up taking a cap hit– for what we still owe them on their multi-year deal. They have guaranteed money. Go look at overthecap.com.

    I just read your article again. You have the “dead money” info–but I think we won’t be saving much because of the multi-year, guaranteed deals these guys got. I hope I am wrong and wish some could get cut… but I don’t think we will gain anything financially, at least this year.

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      if we cut gaither, we would save only $500000 and would take a big hit with the dead money… For Meachem, we would actually take a bigger hit. He counts $6.8M against the cap now and would cost $10.6 against the cap if we cut him. guaranteed him too much money!

      • http://www.facebook.com/paure Patrick Aure

        And AJ Smith’s dealings are still hurting our team.

        • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

          oh yea they are!

          • Preston Niedert

            Is there anyone else we can cut to make room for players. Why haven’t they reworked some deal like weddle or gates or rivers for that matter I’m sure the guys wouldn’t mind if its to help the team why not.

          • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

            we could cut Philip and save $10M… :) hahah

          • Preston Niedert

            no way I’m just suprised they haven’t talk to them or consider it. What happned to making the team better

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            Don’t freak out… but they are not talking to him about restructuring because they are not sure about his future. I hate to say it, but that is the reality of it. They don’t have the loyalty to Rivers that we have.. he’s here for this year for sure. (Maybe a little bit is Rivers not being sure of them also.)

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            Grrrrrr<–re: cutting Phillip

          • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

            hahahah… knew that would be a good one! ha

          • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

            Right there with you… Grrrrr.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-P-Derrick/1654577989 James P Derrick

            Clipboard Jesus…Cipboard Jesus…BOooooooooooLt Up……High draft position in 2014…….

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            They do the restructures based on trust and a contract extension with more guaranteed money on the back end.

            TT probably doesn’t feel comfortable negotiating a contract extension as he really doesn’t know any of them. And same for them–unless they get a better deal on the back side of the contract, why would they do it?

            Restructures are good for the Bradys, Brees, etc.. guys both sides know are going to be around for awhile. Dallas is trying to open up some cap space by restructuring Romo’s deal right now–i.e. a contract extension.

          • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

            That restructuring stuff can be a slippery slope. Not a fan of it. You can get yourself in some pretty hot water, if it doesn’t go exactly as planned.

      • boltingindiego

        but then if we do cut gaither his replacement and the dead money are a larger cap hit then just keeping gaither. So is it worth it depends on who replaces him?

        • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

          I think they are just waiting to see if they can get a replacement before dropping the ax. If they cut him, the cap hit would be $500k cheaper and next season he would be completely off the books. Freeing up money for whoever we want to sign. But if there is nobody to replace him next season, we might as well give him a shot for one more season.

      • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

        Man, AJ got us tied up in knots. TT inherited a mess.

      • RussinSactown

        Dropping Gaither gives us 500K this year and 3 million next year under the cap. If Clary were also gone that would be another 4.5 million next year. Royal would be another 4.5 million for 2014. We gotta ride out this year but imagine having another 12 million to work with.

        • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

          :) that is where it is at!

    • Cgoodness13

      I am also in this conversation

  • arnie

    IF you want to add Larry English, he accounts for 1.2 mil. Brandyn Dombrawski don’t bother to bring back.

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      i think we $410k with a release of English. Not worth releasing him if that is the case, until someone shows that they can take his spot on the roser.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

        Which is pretty safe to say right now, since there is basically nobody behind him on the depth chart.. lol. Wonder what TT’s plan is for that?

        • arnie

          I think TT needs bodies, and English is a body that is under contract.

      • arnie

        Really Ernie? don’t you have to be on the field to prove your worth keeping? for the last four seasons, he’s been replaced by everyone.

        If your talking about saving money, then $410K is $410K. gaither is $6 mil hit. think long term. clear a roster spot for a player that can stay healthy an produce some where else, other than the training tables and practice field.

        http://www.spotrac.com/nfl/san-diego-chargers/larry-english/

        • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

          i know what you are saying. we just got nobody… plus, i still got hope for the fool… for some stupid reason.

          • arnie

            probably for the same reasons i do. i want every player on this roster to do well. Let’s remember, larry has gotten the same training staff, that was let go, for having an un-godly amount of players on IR every season. Although coming in larry had a history of injuries, those two don’t mix. Also, expectations were high that this was the guy that aj drafted to replace LIGHTS OUT? Really? To top it off, norv was his HC.
            The young man really didn’t have a chance….
            Now it’s a new start. he’s going to have to work for it. and if he ends up on the trainers table, his next stop may be FA.

      • Cgoodness13

        Naaaa he was a first round pick, I give him next season to prove himself

  • Cgoodness13

    Keep royal for returns

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      pretty sure we re-signed richard goodman for kick returns. i am sure we can find someone else to do punt returns. if cutting Royal means keeping Danario, then i would do it without hesitation. Rather keep the better injury prone player of the two.

      • Cgoodness13

        Goodman was good at reading blocks, but ha terrible agility

        • boltingindiego

          he would of had some td’s or much longer gains if he could run with out falling in open space.

          • Cgoodness13

            Thinking bout it, maybe we should release both and use spurlock

          • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

            But we just re-signed Goodman… Haha… Wouldn’t mind Spurlock.. Cheap option and worked well with Philip. Have to re-sign him though..

            Larod Stephens-Howling anyone?

          • boltingindiego

            spurlock to me has much better burst for kr than goodman plus he can actually score td’s on them.

          • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

            Lets just draft the honey badger and he will take all return duties

  • Rob Base

    Cut Clary and Gaither! Keep Royal if we can’t get Alexander back but if he signs then cut Royal.

  • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

    How man guys are now signed or have contracts on the team in total? How much $ is left with the current cap after signing the recent dudes?

    • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

      Take a look at http://www.overthecap.com That is a good site that has it all there for all the NFL teams. We’re under the cap right now after the unloading–don’t recall what the number is, but we have non-performers that have an impact on the cap if we cut them, if the Chargers don’t cut them, etc.

      • TheReturnOfMrBlanks

        So it’s like $6,931,000.00 which is more then enough to sign all the draft picks. I wonder who we cut to make room after the draft? or do they just get bounced to the practice squad.

        • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

          the rosters are expanded to 90 players until some time during the pre-season

    • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

      I wanna say our cap is just under 7 million now??? I’m not good with math.. lol. I don’t believe that includes money we need to sign our draft pics, or hook up DA’s contract with, either. I’m pretty sure that’s where we are at for now, but I could be wrong (can anyone verify, or correct this?). We still need to sign a Safety, a MLB, and D-Line depth… although some of that needs to be addressed in the draft.

      • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

        you are right with that… a little more than $7M in cap space left… source: http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/mar/25/chargers-free-agency-salary-cap/

        • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

          Score 2 points for me!!! I was just doing contract math.. lol.

        • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

          Thanks for posting that UT article, Ernie.

  • Cgoodness13

    I actually want to keep McClain, he was a all around full back who could block, run, and catch. He was stuck trying to block lineman blowing past our line though so he didn’t look that good.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

    I didn’t consider this, but what impact do some of these players have on next year’s cap, if TT were to give them the boot this year? Sometimes, there is a residual effect on the cap also in year 2. I think it pertains to a prorated portion of any bonuses already paid. A portion of bonuses paid in year 1- is charged to the cap each year. If you dump the guy, you don’t get out of that.

    • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

      so… gaither costs so much to release this season, because all his guaranteed money will be put onto the cap this year. None of that dough would count against the cap next season.

      • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

        Uh-huh. That’s the skinny, fo sho.

      • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

        They show Gaither’s pay going up to $5,000,000 in 2014 and a hit of another $2 mill for prorated bonus. So, maybe I am getting this mixed up. That is part of his multi-year deal, that AJ signed with him. It continues on… The following year (2014) that would be due him would have some impact on our cap–even if only the portion of the prorated portion of the signing bonus that we paid him when he originally signed the deal.

        I am going to do some research and see if I can find out how much of a signing bonus did Gaither actually get in year 1 of his deal when he first signed with the Chargers.

        • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

          so Gaither has $6 million due to him in guaranteed bonuses… $2 million of that is to be paid this year if he is on the roster and the other $4 million our divided up until 2015. $2M in 2014 and $2M in 2015.

          His base salary next year would be $5M and the following year $6M. His cap number next year would be the base plus the guaranteed bonus, $7M. If cut next season, he still is owe $4M of guaranteed bonuses and would have $4M worth of dead money and the Chargers would save $3M against the cap instead of getting his whole $7M off of the books next season.

          • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

            i hope that made sense

          • http://www.facebook.com/pete.spinning Pete Spinning

            I just went cross-eyed. Then I threw up.

          • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

            Yes, it makes sense. I thought he got the entire signing bonus in year one, but then it affects the salary cap for a portion of it during each year of his contract.

            Plus the team year 2013 already started so we are paying him for this year.

  • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

    This will get your blood boiling on Gaither.

    http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jan/04/acee-jared-gaither-return/

  • Rob Base

    Martin had a visit with Maimi today grrrrrr

    • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

      That means he is likely gone. Hopefully, we can pay him.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/James-P-Derrick/1654577989 James P Derrick

    Why is it that Ed McGuire never said anything to Deano last season that they’d be in this type of Salary Cap Hell? Was there no chance at all that McGuire could have prevented AJ from going crazy in FA last season?? He should have been show the door with AJ and Norf too… Hell he’s the contracts guy. So WTH? This really blows…

  • sanford peisner

    Seems foolish. Rivers and Weddell are open to restructuring their contracts and that will open up more $$. Why not do that?

    • http://www.facebook.com/lostkiara Stefanie Smith

      Okay, think like TT and McCoy… In order to work a “restructure”, both parties have to agree to modify. This usually comes about with a contract extension-giving the player more years, and more guaranteed money in future years of the contract. In year one of the new “restructured” deal, usually the player takes a lower base salary and a signing bonus that can be prorated through the remainder of the contract.

      Why wouldn’t TT talk to Rivers and Weddle? Because they are not sure they want to give these guys an extension. Same for Rivers and Weddle—I expect they are not so sure of the new management either. They hardly know each other.
      It only works when you have a history–a relationship of trust. They don’t have it yet.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Steven-White/100000486654582 Steven White

    this team is loaded with non-impact players. AJ chased all the good ones away and drafted bums.

  • 1961 Fan

    The Chargers have just announced that they released Jared Gaither; another big hit to the cap thanks to A. J. Smith. It may take years to wipe the slate clean on this major flub by the former genius A. J. Smith. It reminds me of another genius GM named Bobby Beathard who drafted Ryan Leaf. Send your cards and letters to Ryan in care of the Washington State Prison.

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