Chargers Cannot Rely On Philip Rivers Anymore

October 15, 2012; San Diego, CA, USA; San Diego Chargers quarterback Philip Rivers (17) hangs his head on the sidelines after throwing an interception that was returned for a touchdown during the fourth quarter against the Denver Broncos at Qualcomm Stadium. The Broncos won 35-24. Mandatory Credit: Christopher Hanewinckel-US PRESSWIRE

I still am speechless over the loss and everything that I try to write comes out spewing of bitterness and frustration. Let’s try to put enough words together onto a page to call a post and complain about our quarterback Philip Rivers.

Early last season, doubt started forming in our minds. He threw interception after interception. People tried to figure out what was wrong with him. Has he lost speed off of the fast ball, is he hurt, does he have too many kids at home and can’t get any rest? All kinds of excuses came up for why Philip was playing horrible.

The preseason this year, he never put that interception problem to rest. He kept throwing interceptions and it has carries over to the regular season. He escaped without an interception in only one game this season. He is on pace for 32 turnovers for the season.

We benched Ryan Mathews after one fumble and Philip already has 9 interceptions and has fumbled the ball 6 times! Those numbers do not lie! For a team that struggles with adversity in a game, these things cannot happen.

Whenever Philip drops back to pass, doubt starts creeping in our minds. The pocket starts to collapse and Philip takes a big sack OR Philip fumbles the football away. When he tries to make a play, it ends up in an interception. Every deep ball down the field feels like it will come down as an interception. Philip has become a turnover machine!

Philip does not look like a quarterback that can win games for us anymore. There have been opportunities for him to win the game, but each and every opportunity seems to end in a turnover.

The Chargers offense has looked like it was built for a rookie quarterback this season and that could be by design. The team has been dinking and dunking the ball all season. The deep ball doesn’t seem to be a strong part of the Chargers offense.

Let’s be clear, Charlie Whitehurst is not the answer. There is not a change at the position that can be made right now that can give the team a better chance to win. The gameplan does need less dependency on Philip Rivers and more dependency on the ground game with Ryan Mathews. At least we can blame Ryan for fumbling instead of blaming an interception. Ryan ONLY has one fumble this year.

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  • veazy

    When I saw the Broncos score within the first five minutes of the second half, I already knew what would happen. I’m going to be honest, I have not felt confident in this team in a long time, and all the talk of the the so-called “loyal” fans who just trash every other team as if the Chargers could take on any contenders and rape the hell out of them have just added to my frustration because it’s stupid fans like that who give all other fans a bad name and have all of us dealing with the aftermath of others who feel like all Charger fans are smug bastards that feel they deserve to go to the Superbowl and our performances are some kind of karma. I can’t properly defend anything the Chargers do when all they have done is choke worse than Nate Kaeding in a play off game. I always gotta hear about how the Chargers are chokers. While I refused to believe that, I have known deep down that there is nothing the Chargers have done to prove all the haters wrong. This team, and especially the QB, will always be defined by how mediocre it is in the face of adversity. This game has cemented the Chargers, Philip Rivers, and maybe even the city, as the biggest choke artists in NFL history. Sounds harsh, but historically it truly was the greatest choke in NFL history. Sometimes I wish I was from a different city, or that the Chargers would move to LA so I could lose my hometown bias and hate the shit out of them, but as long as they’re here, I have to root for them and hope they eventually make it to the Superbowl and not get blown out like the 94 team. Nobody is going to trade for Rivers now; he just became the most overrated QB in the league; Tony Romo and Jay Cutler have more trade value than him right now. Norv might get fired, but AJ will stay and have another failed coach. All the delusional idiots that want Gruden are just stupid and fail to realize that he is never coaching again and that he is a dumbass in reality. The best chance the Chargers had at a real head coach was former Charger Jim Harbaugh, but that was two years ago and people were still mostly kissing Norv’s ass back then. On a different note; the defense was decent. Most of the front 7 is still young and will refine their game within a few years. The secondary is where it got bad. All the talk about the pass rush and pressuring the QB to compensate for the “alright” coverage of the corners was a load of shit; more delusion/denial from Charger fans. Cason is the next Cromartie without all the skill and Jammer is just a vet who can’t even go up against anybody who bothers to try breaking his ankles. Don’t even get me started on Gilchrist who seems to wait to tackle the reciever after the ball is caught. Meachem AKA “#1 Reciever” AKA “Better than Malcom Floyd” is nothing but a product of a Sean Payton/Drew Brees led air assault, that loves to run up the score and throw the ball everywhere, in which he had multiple recievers above him on the depth chart getting more attention from opposing teams allowing him to get easier matchups and make those stupid highlight reels that Charger fans were bragging about in the offseason. Every pass to him has been bad luck and ended in an incompletion or interception. The best move would be to trade Rivers for a young and promising QB (Tolzien) or maybe hope that they suck enough to get a decent draft pick in 3-5 years and get a new-age QB like Jeff Driskel or that freshman from Texas A&M who makes the Dolphins look like dumbasses for treating a forgettable QB like top 10 royalty that will lead them to the Championship game. Alright, enough, I’ve ranted way too much, more than I ever have before. I guess all that’s left to do is have blind faith in them rebounding and going to the Superbowl so we can all live happily ever after.

    • Kenny

      I am very much in the minority on this issue. Rivers not Norv threw four interceptions. River fumbled the ball. It looked to be that Rivers also changed a few run plays to pass at the line. Obvisouly, I dont know what was called in, but it looked like our QB was being aggressive. One, you run the ball and hit short screens when you have a lead late. Two, when your deep ball is as horrible as Rivers has been lately, you DONT throw it! It seems like he is always looking for a 10 plus yard throw, instead of looking for the obvious throw. That is QB in game decision making, not play calling. Norv can not do the pre-snap reads, hike the ball, go through check downs, and throw it for Rivers.

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1311604274 Russell Grant

        But Norv can see the shift in the game and decide to put in running packages to eat the clock. Norv is just being Norv and that’s a .500 coach lifetime. He’s no better than a coin flip, whether it’s because he had a bad special teams coach (two years ago), a bad defensive coordinator (last year) or Rivers choking it away (now). The one constant has been the head coach.

        • Kenny

          I agree, and touched on this early. There were a few plays that looked like running plays, that I BELIEVE Rivers checked out of on the line. I am not a Norv-fanatic, I could take or leave the guy. I personally feel he catches alot of wrath that should be directed elsewhere on alot of occasions. Example yesterday, Rivers blew the game. Weather or not Norv called pass plays or Rivers audibled to them, number 17 did not execute up to par. Four interceptions, and a fumble is on Rivers. Once they walk up to the line, the game and decisions are in the QBs hand, and out of the coachs. In my opinion, Rivers did not execute, and has not executed on many occasions in the recent past.

    • arnie

      you ain’t alone…
      it’s oaky to say, “the emperor has no clothes on”, it’s the rest of the fan base that needs to wake up realize this. no amount of cheering, or supporting the team will change that.

  • Kenny

    Remember a few
    years back, when Rivers looked like a sure fire hall of famer, and we all
    thought we got the better end of the Eli-Rivers trade. Damn I miss that
    feeling! For the past 2.5-3 years, I have doubted Rivers’ capabilities. I
    mostly kept these thoughts to myself and shared them only with close friends,
    who were also Charger fans. They all called me crazy. Oh, how I wish I was
    wrong. It is now obvious the Chargers currently possess a team capable of going
    far, but are missing one key thing, a quarterback. In circa 2008-09, I never
    thought those words would come out of my mouth. RIVERS is our major liability.
    Every snap, I hope for a run or SHORT screen pass. Gone are the days of calling
    for the long bomb. I dread seeing Rivers cock back to heave (not pass) the ball
    down the field.

    There is something more dis-heartening, San Diego
    is too good to replace Rivers via draft, and we don’t have the cap space for another
    tier one QB. The Chargers wont be able to do either for some time. The Bolts
    are now at point of talent where the only way to get a solid replacement is for
    our team to slowly deteriorate for a few seasons.
    A very sad state of affairs, but I havent given up on hope. GO BOLTS.

  • Veazy

    At this point, AJ Smith is third on my list for who needs to leave the Chargers organization. 1) Norv, 2) Rivers. Plus, I’m a big Bisaccia supporter, and I’m thoroughly excited he was named assistant HC coming into the season. PLEASE WAKE UP AJ & DEAN.

    • veazy

      I don’t get why this idiot is posting under my name…

      • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

        dang… didnt even notice that. thought it was you until you said something

      • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1311604274 Russell Grant

        You have a clone?

        • http://boltbeat.com/ Ernie Padaon

          he calls him number 2

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1311604274 Russell Grant

    “There are going to be a lot of people who will count us out, who will say we can’t respond and can’t come back from this,” Turner said. “I have a lot of faith in the guys in the locker room. I have a lot of faith in our veteran leadership. I have a lot of faith in our young guys that are eager to play and play with great energy, and that’s not going to change.”

    Now as much as I want to grab the pitchforks and torches and run Norv, AJ and Rivers out of town, we’re stuck with the trio through the year. Maybe it puts a fire under Rivers to pick his shots better. Maybe Norv figures out how to gameplan or AJ can find some 6’7″ 330 pound guy who can play tackle so we don’t have to do it by committee anymore. Maybe Cason will get that burnt toast smell off of him. All I know is there will need to be changes in this team.

  • Richard

    “The season is over.” “It’s Phillip’s fault. Get a new QB.” What the fuck are you guys? First off, it’s the sixth game of the season. No one’s season is over. Anything can happen.. for example, blowing a 24 point lead. Chargers had it in th
    e bag. Norv is right. It was HIS fault. It was the play calling and the pressure by the Denver defense which ruined the Chargers night. Phillip has done a great job over the years. A couple of years ago Manning threw six interceptions against the Chargers… The seasons wasn’t lost and no one was screaming to get a new QB. Shit happens. All of you… straight downers. San Diego has the worst fans in sports, I swear.

    • Guest

      Perhaps if this was a one time mishap, I would agree and say it is an over reaction Tuesday. However, Rivers has been on the decline sinc 2010.
      2010-13int, 2011-20int, 2012-9int. Only a third of the way into 2012 and 9 picks!
      On to the real point:
      Being critical of your team’s players when they under peform does not make you a bad sports fan. If you want to blindly scream “Rivers is the greatest” from the rooftops, go ahead. I would rather hold him accountable. You dont get a “that a boy” and a pat on the back when you under-peform repeatedly. Then again, I am not of the mindset everyone is winner.
      If you dont cringe a little everytime you see Rivers look past the check down and go for the deep ball, then I am envious of your oblivous fanhood. I personally prefer a supportive, educated, critcal fan base that holds a team accountable. I will leave the patting them on the back when they blow to the “good fans”. If we arent going to hold anyone accountable, then we do not care. Saying, “good game man” when it was a horrible game, isnt for me. If false motivation helps get you through the season, continue what works for you. I wont question your fanhood, and I wont lose any sleep over you questioning mine.
      Go Bolts

    • Kenny

      Perhaps if this was a one time mishap, I would agree and say it is an over reaction Tuesday. However, Rivers has been on the decline sinc 2010.
      2010-13int, 2011-20int, 2012-9int. Only a third of the way into 2012 and 9 picks!
      On to the real point:
      Being critical of your team’s players when they under peform does not make you a bad sports fan. If you want to blindly scream “Rivers is the greatest” from the rooftops, go ahead. I would rather hold him accountable. You dont get a “that a boy” and a pat on the back when you under-peform repeatedly. Then again, I am not of the mindset everyone is winner.
      If you dont cringe a little everytime you see Rivers look past the check down and go for the deep ball, then I am envious of your fanhood. I personally prefer a supportive, educated, critcal fan base that holds a team accountable. I will leave the patting them on the back when they blow to the “good fans”. If we arent going to hold anyone accountable, then we do not care. Saying, “good game man” when it was a horrible game, isnt for me. If false motivation helps get you through the season, continue what works for you. I wont question your fanhood, and I wont lose any sleep over you questioning mine.
      Go Bolts

  • 1961 Fan

    Give Rivers three strikes:
    1. Strike, Vincent Jackson is gone & Vincent Brown is on the DL.
    2. The O line sucks, if I had a grand mother she would be the other teams sack leader.
    3. Rivers & Norv have been on the out’s from the beginning of last year; no matter what they say to the press they are not on the same page.

    The unfortunate truth is that Rivers has lost the shine he had in previous years. The frustration in NOT getting to the playoffs is showing in his play. His arm strength has diminished and his progression into greatness has stopped. He is now (at best) a journeyman at the QB position. As fans we never want to believe that our shining star of a QB has lost his brightness. The franchise (Chargers) has stopped functioning as a well oiled machine and the shadow of Marty’s great teams hangs over Qualcomm. With the economy still in flux, the two years without a Playoff berth has caused the fans of San Diego to rethink how they spend their Sunday dollars. Buy gas, or spend $ 250.00 on two tickets and parking/trolley and grub to watch an out of synk team try to recapture the glory of the Schottenheimer years. Bad play calling by a coach who at best is out of his league when heading a football team. Even if A. J. Smith had provided GREAT players Norv would not have the instinct to make the Bolts winners. A. J. Smith has made so many blunders in the draft and bringing in “has beens” or cast offs from other teams, even the best of coaches could not make this team winners. With that knowledge floating around the league, what QUALITY coach would want to put his reputation on the line unless he wanted to get a big payday.

    All of that said the only person that can change this situation is the “deaf & dumb” Dean Spanos. Either the guy has an invisible shield around him to deflect the criticism of the team or he is just the most ignorant of all the 32 owners. The problems of today and the past 29 seasons as the ownership family falls squarely on him. Dean Spanos has failed the Chargers franchise and the fans including San Diego as a destination city.
    If you believe in miracles then the Chargers need one to resurrect this season.
    Pops

  • 1961 Fan

    To: Vesey

    Your long article is right on the mark; I am glad that some people are waking up to reality. Thank you for your truthful comments. If others like you (true fans) would start expressing their feelings (even the negative ones) then perhaps Dean Spanos would get some balls and do something about this mess.
    Pops

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